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| In misc.taxes.moderated, sandybeth wrote: - quote - > Why can't these brokerage firms get their numbers correct the first
When I saw the subject, I wondered if you were having soldiers> time??? Every year I have to file at least 1 amended return, this > year I filed 2. TODAY--April 18th--I received yet another corrected > statement from ETrade. They over-reported our qualified dividends by > $23.00. Instead of 175, they are 152. At 15% tax rate, that makes > the tax difference $3.30. Do I really have to file ANOTHER amended > return for this small of a difference? > Sandy staying at your home without permission. :-) [posted as tax humor-- but at first I really did suspect it was a post about a Bill of Rights thing.] -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| MyVeryOwnSelf wrote: - quote - > > > What about $193? It seems too large to ignore, but I have no
According to others in this group, there are some threshold amounts> > > comparisons, and haven't seen any IRS information about a lower > > > limit. > > > > > If the state return is amended also, that would be $60 extra. It > > > seems sensible to amend it because if only federal is amended, the > > > state carry- forwards to 2009 would be different from federal ones > > > (capital loss carry- forward in this case), which sounds messy. > I should've stated that the question is about extra payment to the tax > collector (not a refund). below which the IRS won't necessarily pursue an underpayment. The tax tables themselves (for most taxpayers under $100K taxable income) have $50 steps built in (i.e. your income might rise or fall by that much and still not change your tax). Obviously these thresholds are not publicized. For $193 additional balance due, I would file an amendment, and the state too, in your example. I saw a client this year with a letter from the IRS saying, basically, "you have a $105 credit, your tax due is $105, and oh by the way you owe us $8 interest on the transaction so send us $8". I was ready to track it down since my initial recollection was that the client shouldn't have owed it, but he said it wasn't worth his time. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > > What about $193? It seems too large to ignore, but I have no
I should've stated that the question is about extra payment to the tax> > comparisons, and haven't seen any IRS information about a lower > > limit. > > > If the state return is amended also, that would be $60 extra. It > > seems sensible to amend it because if only federal is amended, the > > state carry- forwards to 2009 would be different from federal ones > > (capital loss carry- forward in this case), which sounds messy. > > If I amend for myself or a client to get a refund, the cost to the IRS > is irrelevant to me, only my time counts. If I can amend and get > back (net) the price of dinner out at someplace more than a fast food > place, I'll do it. collector (not a refund). -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| MyVeryOwnSelf wrote: - quote - > > > ... that makes
If I amend for myself or a client to get a refund, the cost to the IRS> > > the tax difference $3.30. Do I really have to file ANOTHER amended > > > return for this small of a difference? > > For $3 I would not bother to amend. It costs the IRS about $35 > > to process each amended return. > What about $193? It seems too large to ignore, but I have no comparisons, > and haven't seen any IRS information about a lower limit. > If the state return is amended also, that would be $60 extra. It seems > sensible to amend it because if only federal is amended, the state carry- > forwards to 2009 would be different from federal ones (capital loss carry- > forward in this case), which sounds messy. is irrelevant to me, only my time counts. If I can amend and get back (net) the price of dinner out at someplace more than a fast food place, I'll do it. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > > ... that makes
What about $193? It seems too large to ignore, but I have no comparisons,> > the tax difference $3.30. Do I really have to file ANOTHER amended > > return for this small of a difference? > For $3 I would not bother to amend. It costs the IRS about $35 > to process each amended return. and haven't seen any IRS information about a lower limit. If the state return is amended also, that would be $60 extra. It seems sensible to amend it because if only federal is amended, the state carry- forwards to 2009 would be different from federal ones (capital loss carry- forward in this case), which sounds messy. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com wrote: - quote - > On Apr 18, 1:16 pm, kam...[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
And the degree of accuracy, and speed. All three factors are part of> > For $3 I would not bother to amend. It costs the IRS about $35 > > to process each amended return. > That seems cheap. How do they do it? Wouldn't it depend on the > complexity of the return? the cost/benefit equation. I suspect there are more, for example tax year and refund or balance due on the new version. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Apr 18, 1:16 pm, kam...[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote: - quote - > For $3 I would not bother to amend. It costs the IRS about $35
That seems cheap. How do they do it? Wouldn't it depend on the> to process each amended return. complexity of the return? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <9aaa0c8b-acad-4b35-821b-78f53d608f28[at]z14g2000yqa.googlegroups.com> , sandybeth <sandyhb6[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Why can't these brokerage firms get their numbers correct the first > time??? Every year I have to file at least 1 amended return, this > year I filed 2. TODAY--April 18th--I received yet another corrected > statement from ETrade. They over-reported our qualified dividends by > $23.00. Instead of 175, they are 152. At 15% tax rate, that makes > the tax difference $3.30. Do I really have to file ANOTHER amended > return for this small of a difference? For $3 I would not bother to amend. It costs the IRS about $35 to process each amended return. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Why can't these brokerage firms get their numbers correct the first time??? Every year I have to file at least 1 amended return, this year I filed 2. TODAY--April 18th--I received yet another corrected statement from ETrade. They over-reported our qualified dividends by $23.00. Instead of 175, they are 152. At 15% tax rate, that makes the tax difference $3.30. Do I really have to file ANOTHER amended return for this small of a difference? Sandy -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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