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| On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:04:11 EDT, Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > And that line you just mentioned is the line on which the IRA
Well, a few comments, which may explain why my confusion.> distribution should be included along with any other "regular" pensions. > So the answer to your question is YES, Total income in column B on page > 2 of the AL form 40NR should include it. The Alabama Form 40 (for residents) and the instructions both speak directly to IRA taxable distributions, and how to calculate that. In addition, there is a separate line on Form 40 (Line 4), where the IRA distribution is reported. No such line is present with regard to the 40NR (non-resident) form. - quote - > After all, the instructions you quote say as much, therefore.......
Not the way I read it."Distributions from an Individual Retirement Arrangement (IRA) including SEPs and DECs, if you excluded these amounts in a prior year." If this had stated something like "if you had deducted contributions to the IRA in previous years", then it would make sense to me. But it does not state that. --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:04:11 EDT, Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > And that line you just mentioned is the line on which the IRA
Thanks for the info, Harlan. Sure wish it had been spelled out more> distribution should be included along with any other "regular" pensions. > So the answer to your question is YES, Total income in column B on page > 2 of the AL form 40NR should include it. > After all, the instructions you quote say as much, therefore....... > Taxcut is wrong. DEAD wrong. > tell 'em so. > And you may quote me. > Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA > (that's Lower Alabama so you'll know. grin) clearly. Now I have to send them another $500! (Fortunately, I can do it electronically for free). --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:04:11 EDT, Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > Taxcut is wrong. DEAD wrong.
Apparently, so also is one of the helpful people at the Alabama dep't of> tell 'em so. Revenue! --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Ron Rosenfeld wrote: - quote - > On my federal form 1040, I have taxable IRA distributions.
And that line you just mentioned is the line on which the IRA> On my Alabama 40NR (I was a non-resident for the entire year), this > distribution was NOT carried over to my Total Income line on the AL 40NR by > TaxCut. (All of my other income was carried over properly). > The instructions are confusing to me, a non-resident (who has never claimed > an IRA deduction in Alabama), and asking two different people at the > Alabama dep't of revenue resulted in two different and opposite answers. > Anyone here have any knowledge as to whether a federally taxable IRA > distribution, for someone who has never been an AL resident should be > included in one's *total* income column on the Alabama 40NR? > Taxcut clearly thinks it should not be included. > For what it's worth, from the Alabama 2008 Form 40NR Booklet: > ========================================== > The following kinds of income should be reported > on Forms 40, 40A, or 40NR and related forms and > schedules. > .... > Distributions from an Individual Retirement > Arrangement (IRA) including SEPs and DECs, if you > excluded these amounts in a prior year. > ============================================ > And on the forms, there are no lines labeled IRA distribution. The > "closest" line is labeled "Pensions and Annuities" distribution should be included along with any other "regular" pensions. So the answer to your question is YES, Total income in column B on page 2 of the AL form 40NR should include it. After all, the instructions you quote say as much, therefore....... Taxcut is wrong. DEAD wrong. tell 'em so. And you may quote me. Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA (that's Lower Alabama so you'll know. grin) -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On my federal form 1040, I have taxable IRA distributions. On my Alabama 40NR (I was a non-resident for the entire year), this distribution was NOT carried over to my Total Income line on the AL 40NR by TaxCut. (All of my other income was carried over properly). The instructions are confusing to me, a non-resident (who has never claimed an IRA deduction in Alabama), and asking two different people at the Alabama dep't of revenue resulted in two different and opposite answers. Anyone here have any knowledge as to whether a federally taxable IRA distribution, for someone who has never been an AL resident should be included in one's *total* income column on the Alabama 40NR? Taxcut clearly thinks it should not be included. For what it's worth, from the Alabama 2008 Form 40NR Booklet: ========================================== The following kinds of income should be reported on Forms 40, 40A, or 40NR and related forms and schedules. ..... Distributions from an Individual Retirement Arrangement (IRA) including SEPs and DECs, if you excluded these amounts in a prior year. ============================================ And on the forms, there are no lines labeled IRA distribution. The "closest" line is labeled "Pensions and Annuities" Thanks. --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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