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Old 04-12-2009, 11:22 PM
Alan
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Default Re: Constructive receipt of State Tax Refund

Dick Adams wrote:
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> Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Dick Adams wrote:
> > > CPA told me he had a new client who had $22,000 in capital
> > > gains from a January sale of stock. When he told him how
> > > much he owed in Federal and State taxes,

> > I'm not clear, which tax year(s) are we talking about?

> It's my understanding that the capital gains were from Jan 2008
> and the accrued refunds were from 1999 through 2007.
> The explanation I heard was this guy was paranoid because of
> an audit he had in the mid-90's.
> Dick

This sounds as though he never filed for those years even though
he "could have" received state refunds. No filing.. No
constructive receipt. In fact, the state owes him nothing until
he first establishes that a refund is due. And.. let's not forget
that states have statute of limitations on obtaining refunds.

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Old 04-12-2009, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: Constructive receipt of State Tax Refund

"Dick Adams" <rdadams[at]panix.com> wrote in message
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> Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote:
> > Dick Adams wrote:
> > > CPA told me he had a new client who had $22,000 in capital
> > > gains from a January sale of stock. When he told him how
> > > much he owed in Federal and State taxes,

> > I'm not clear, which tax year(s) are we talking about?

> It's my understanding that the capital gains were from Jan 2008
> and the accrued refunds were from 1999 through 2007.
> The explanation I heard was this guy was paranoid because of
> an audit he had in the mid-90's.


Then the question should be posted to the unmoderated group! ;-)

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Old 04-12-2009, 04:53 AM
Dick Adams
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Default Re: Constructive receipt of State Tax Refund

Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote:
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> Dick Adams wrote:

> > CPA told me he had a new client who had $22,000 in capital
> > gains from a January sale of stock. When he told him how
> > much he owed in Federal and State taxes,


> I'm not clear, which tax year(s) are we talking about?


It's my understanding that the capital gains were from Jan 2008
and the accrued refunds were from 1999 through 2007.

The explanation I heard was this guy was paranoid because of
an audit he had in the mid-90's.

Dick

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Old 04-12-2009, 04:23 AM
Mark Bole
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Default Re: Constructive receipt of State Tax Refund

Dick Adams wrote:
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> CPA told me he had a new client who had $22,000 in capital
> gains from a January sale of stock. When he told him how
> much he owed in Federal and State taxes,


I'm not clear, which tax year(s) are we talking about?

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> the client replied
> he had unpaid refunds in excess of the taxes due.


Again, which tax year are we talking about for each refund and payment?
By "unpaid refund", do you mean, "refund applied as estimated payment
toward next tax year"?

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> Since your State Income Taxes actually paid is deductible,

If you itemize...

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> why is not rolling forward the refunds considered constructive
> receipt?
> Dick


-Mark Bole

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Old 04-12-2009, 04:01 AM
Dick Adams
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Default Constructive receipt of State Tax Refund

CPA told me he had a new client who had $22,000 in capital
gains from a January sale of stock. When he told him how
much he owed in Federal and State taxes, the client replied
he had unpaid refunds in excess of the taxes due.

Since your State Income Taxes actually paid is deductible,
why is not rolling forward the refunds considered constructive
receipt?

Dick

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