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Old 04-12-2009, 04:41 PM
DF2
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Default Re: TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?

In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:

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> On Apr 10, 6:43*pm, DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote:
> > In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:
> > > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
> > > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
> > > thousand $. *What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" *mean?
> > > That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or

> > letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of
> > $26000?
> > > > * Can
> > > we carry it forward? * (In case it is anything to do with that, our
> > > Wash Sales were $30,000.
> > > That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and

> > if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales
> > were wash sales?
> > Wash Sale-wise, after losses, we increased the cost basis of the

> follow on trades in the same stock/options thereon, but kept trading
> in and out with the same shares/connected options within 30 days...
> hence the Wash Sales reported by our broker. We ended up according to
> Turbotax in the Summary of Cap Gains & Losses with $143K in cap gain,
> but minus $165k in cap loss ( $22 K overall Loss I would habve
> thought) but Turbo tax says Cap Gain of $5k and this $26k as "Total
> NONreportable Loss' - I really don't quite comprehend what is meant by
> "Total NONreportable Loss" - I cannot find explanation of the meaning
> of those words.
> At the close of 08 we had gains from Options Sales ( not closed out)
> of $14k which we carried not reported over as the Options Expirations
> were in Jan and Feb 09 - can we offset the $26k above mentioned in 08
> against that and other gains in 2009?
> Hauslohn confused by wording " Total Nonreportable loss"


Hauslohn did not respond to my first question ["*Where* (what form,
report, or letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total
Nonreportable Loss" of $26000?"], so DF2 could not see if that same
message appeared after putting a big wash sale into a test file.
There were several places that did not have such a message.

DF2 will be away from MTM for a week.

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Old 04-11-2009, 10:41 PM
Hauslohn
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Default Re: TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?

On Apr 10, 6:43*pm, DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote:
- quote -

> In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:
> > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
> > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
> > thousand $. *What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" *mean?

> That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or
> letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of
> $26000?
> > * Can
> > we carry it forward? * (In case it is anything to do with that, our
> > Wash Sales were $30,000.

> That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and
> if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales
> were wash sales?

Wash Sale-wise, after losses, we increased the cost basis of the
follow on trades in the same stock/options thereon, but kept trading
in and out with the same shares/connected options within 30 days...
hence the Wash Sales reported by our broker. We ended up according to
Turbotax in the Summary of Cap Gains & Losses with $143K in cap gain,
but minus $165k in cap loss ( $22 K overall Loss I would habve
thought) but Turbo tax says Cap Gain of $5k and this $26k as "Total
NONreportable Loss' - I really don't quite comprehend what is meant by
"Total NONreportable Loss" - I cannot find explanation of the meaning
of those words.
At the close of 08 we had gains from Options Sales ( not closed out)
of $14k which we carried not reported over as the Options Expirations
were in Jan and Feb 09 - can we offset the $26k above mentioned in 08
against that and other gains in 2009?
Hauslohn confused by wording " Total Nonreportable loss"

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Old 04-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?

In article <4b3vt4t3dkakvnbmd97unc65beeh433gea[at]4ax.com> ,
DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote:
- quote -

> In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:
> > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
> > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
> > thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean?

> That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or
> letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of
> $26000?
> > Can
> > we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our
> > Wash Sales were $30,000.

> That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and
> if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales
> were wash sales?



As part of understanding wash sales, can I assume you increased
the cost basis of the replacement shares by the amount of disallowed
wash sale loss?
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Old 04-10-2009, 10:43 PM
DF2
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Default Re: TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?

In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:

- quote -

> When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
> "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
> thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean?


That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or
letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of
$26000?

- quote -

> Can
> we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our
> Wash Sales were $30,000.


That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and
if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales
were wash sales?


- quote -

> Totally confused by that and Turbo Tax group does not reply.
> Thanks in advance
> Hauslohn


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Old 04-10-2009, 05:54 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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Default Re: TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?


"Hauslohn" <Hauslohn[at]cox.net> wrote
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> When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
> "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
> thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? Can
> we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our
> Wash Sales were $30,000.





It sounds like wash sales that stick. Meaning, the non-reportable losses
would be wash sale losses where you are still holding the repurchased stocks
as of year-end.

There will be other wash sale losses where you sold the repurchased sales
prior to year-end.

To the extent that your basis in the repurchased shares is adjusted, I guess
you could say yes, you get to "carry them forward".

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Old 04-10-2009, 05:26 PM
Hauslohn
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Default TurboTax says we have "Total Nonreportable Loss" - what is that?

When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
"Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several
thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? Can
we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our
Wash Sales were $30,000.
Totally confused by that and Turbo Tax group does not reply.
Thanks in advance
Hauslohn

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