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| In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote: - quote - > On Apr 10, 6:43*pm, DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote:
Hauslohn did not respond to my first question ["*Where* (what form,> > In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote: > > > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a > > > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several > > > thousand $. *What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" *mean? > > > That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or > > letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of > > $26000? > > > > * Can > > > we carry it forward? * (In case it is anything to do with that, our > > > Wash Sales were $30,000. > > > That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and > > if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales > > were wash sales? > > Wash Sale-wise, after losses, we increased the cost basis of the > follow on trades in the same stock/options thereon, but kept trading > in and out with the same shares/connected options within 30 days... > hence the Wash Sales reported by our broker. We ended up according to > Turbotax in the Summary of Cap Gains & Losses with $143K in cap gain, > but minus $165k in cap loss ( $22 K overall Loss I would habve > thought) but Turbo tax says Cap Gain of $5k and this $26k as "Total > NONreportable Loss' - I really don't quite comprehend what is meant by > "Total NONreportable Loss" - I cannot find explanation of the meaning > of those words. > At the close of 08 we had gains from Options Sales ( not closed out) > of $14k which we carried not reported over as the Options Expirations > were in Jan and Feb 09 - can we offset the $26k above mentioned in 08 > against that and other gains in 2009? > Hauslohn confused by wording " Total Nonreportable loss" report, or letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000?"], so DF2 could not see if that same message appeared after putting a big wash sale into a test file. There were several places that did not have such a message. DF2 will be away from MTM for a week. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Apr 10, 6:43*pm, DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote: - quote - > In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote:
follow on trades in the same stock/options thereon, but kept trading> > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a > > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several > > thousand $. *What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" *mean? > That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or > letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of > $26000? > > * Can > > we carry it forward? * (In case it is anything to do with that, our > > Wash Sales were $30,000. > That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and > if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales > were wash sales? Wash Sale-wise, after losses, we increased the cost basis of the in and out with the same shares/connected options within 30 days... hence the Wash Sales reported by our broker. We ended up according to Turbotax in the Summary of Cap Gains & Losses with $143K in cap gain, but minus $165k in cap loss ( $22 K overall Loss I would habve thought) but Turbo tax says Cap Gain of $5k and this $26k as "Total NONreportable Loss' - I really don't quite comprehend what is meant by "Total NONreportable Loss" - I cannot find explanation of the meaning of those words. At the close of 08 we had gains from Options Sales ( not closed out) of $14k which we carried not reported over as the Options Expirations were in Jan and Feb 09 - can we offset the $26k above mentioned in 08 against that and other gains in 2009? Hauslohn confused by wording " Total Nonreportable loss" -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <4b3vt4t3dkakvnbmd97unc65beeh433gea[at]4ax.com> , DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote: - quote - > In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote: > > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a > > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several > > thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? > That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or > letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of > $26000? > > Can > > we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our > > Wash Sales were $30,000. > That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and > if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales > were wash sales? As part of understanding wash sales, can I assume you increased the cost basis of the replacement shares by the amount of disallowed wash sale loss? -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In misc.taxes.moderated, Hauslohn wrote: - quote - > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a
That sounds like a good guess. *Where* (what form, report, or> "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several > thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? letter) does Turbo Tax say you have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000? - quote - > Can
That's a lot of wash sales. Do you understand about wash sales, and> we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our > Wash Sales were $30,000. if not, where did you get the information that certain of your sales were wash sales? - quote - > Totally confused by that and Turbo Tax group does not reply.
--> Thanks in advance > Hauslohn << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Hauslohn" <Hauslohn[at]cox.net> wrote - quote - > When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a > "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several > thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? Can > we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our > Wash Sales were $30,000. It sounds like wash sales that stick. Meaning, the non-reportable losses would be wash sale losses where you are still holding the repurchased stocks as of year-end. There will be other wash sale losses where you sold the repurchased sales prior to year-end. To the extent that your basis in the repurchased shares is adjusted, I guess you could say yes, you get to "carry them forward". -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| When we finish our Capital Gains and Losses, Turbo Tax says we have a "Total Nonreportable Loss" of $26000, but a net Gain of several thousand $. What exactly does "Total Nonreportable Loss" mean? Can we carry it forward? (In case it is anything to do with that, our Wash Sales were $30,000. Totally confused by that and Turbo Tax group does not reply. Thanks in advance Hauslohn -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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