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Old 04-06-2009, 11:43 PM
D. Stussy
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Default Re: Sec. 179 depreciation limited to taxable Business Income

"Wilson" <highledge[at]roadrunner.com> wrote in message
news:grb8c4$c88$1[at]reader.motzarella.org...
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> I thought I understood this completely, but now I'm wondering. All other
> limits withstanding, I was under the impression that if a business

grossed
> $50K, then it could expense up to $50K of depreciable property in the

year
> of that purchase. Now I'm wondering if I should be looking at the

business
> net income before §179 depreciation is taken as the proper limit.


The statute says NET business income of the TAXPAYER, not the business.

- quote -

> I know that according to Pub. 946, charitable contributions can come into
> play, but not an issue in my situation.


Not for an individual: Contributions are always non-business expenses.

- quote -

> The reason is that I want to take more than the $25K of 179 that I can
take
> for Maine in order to lower my fed. liability and then deal with the

excess
> 179 later. Sorry if I'm unclear & thanks.


The gain on the sale of a business asset is business income. Real estate
rental income is not.

Note that the computation of business income is without regard to Section
179. Therefore, if one has a home office (280A) where there's a
carryforward (when section 179 were to be included at face value) that
exceeds the 179 amount, there is no 179 deduction (because the 280A amount
carried comes out as a current year expense, leaving a net business income
of zero or less).

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Old 04-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Wilson
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Default Re: Sec. 179 depreciation limited to taxable Business Income

sometime in the recent past Arthur Kamlet posted this:
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> In article <grb8c4$c88$1[at]reader.motzarella.org> ,
> Wilson <highledge[at]roadrunner.com> wrote:
> > I thought I understood this completely, but now I'm wondering. All other
> > limits withstanding, I was under the impression that if a business grossed
> > $50K, then it could expense up to $50K of depreciable property in the year
> > of that purchase. Now I'm wondering if I should be looking at the business
> > net income before §179 depreciation is taken as the proper limit.
> > > I know that according to Pub. 946, charitable contributions can come into

> > play, but not an issue in my situation.
> > > The reason is that I want to take more than the $25K of 179 that I can take

> > for Maine in order to lower my fed. liability and then deal with the excess
> > 179 later. Sorry if I'm unclear & thanks.

> Your S 179 allowance is limited to net earned income but that
> includes wages and even net income from another unrelated business.

Thanks. So to the net income on Sch. C (before the S 179) adds to wages on
1040 ln. 7. How about 1040 ln. 14 (especially from 4797) and Rental income
(non-passive) from ln. 17?

I'm using Taxcut which gives me a 'Data Verification warning' that my S 179
'appears to exceed your taxable income from all sources' and may or may not
need to be corrected.

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Wilson N44º39" W67º12"

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Old 04-06-2009, 01:54 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Sec. 179 depreciation limited to taxable Business Income

In article <grb8c4$c88$1[at]reader.motzarella.org> ,
Wilson <highledge[at]roadrunner.com> wrote:
- quote -

> I thought I understood this completely, but now I'm wondering. All other
> limits withstanding, I was under the impression that if a business grossed
> $50K, then it could expense up to $50K of depreciable property in the year
> of that purchase. Now I'm wondering if I should be looking at the business
> net income before §179 depreciation is taken as the proper limit.
> I know that according to Pub. 946, charitable contributions can come into
> play, but not an issue in my situation.
> The reason is that I want to take more than the $25K of 179 that I can take
> for Maine in order to lower my fed. liability and then deal with the excess
> 179 later. Sorry if I'm unclear & thanks.



Your S 179 allowance is limited to net earned income but that
includes wages and even net income from another unrelated business.
--

ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 04-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Wilson
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Default Sec. 179 depreciation limited to taxable Business Income

I thought I understood this completely, but now I'm wondering. All other
limits withstanding, I was under the impression that if a business grossed
$50K, then it could expense up to $50K of depreciable property in the year
of that purchase. Now I'm wondering if I should be looking at the business
net income before §179 depreciation is taken as the proper limit.

I know that according to Pub. 946, charitable contributions can come into
play, but not an issue in my situation.

The reason is that I want to take more than the $25K of 179 that I can take
for Maine in order to lower my fed. liability and then deal with the excess
179 later. Sorry if I'm unclear & thanks.
--
Wilson N44º39" W67º12"

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 
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