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| On Mar 26, 6:49 pm, what-a-guy <reginald.wayne.richa...[at]gmail.comwrote: - quote - > My son is a full-time college student, whose tuition and expenses are
What kind of trust is this? I know that for a living trust, or at> almost completely paid by a trust for which I am the fiduciary. I've > filed a 1041 for the trust, reporting a loss. Do I also need to show > the loss on his personal 1040, line 17? least some kind of living trust, there is no 1041 and the income goes directly onto your 1040. It's just a fancy way of putting some of your money under protection from lawsuits, divorces, quicker distribution of inheritance, etc (though I don't know if it is always effective at these tasks). There are words such as grantor trusts, revocable trusts, etc, which I don't quite understand, but worth a look. If this trust is truly a separate entity, then a K1 is in order, but the trust rates are extremely high so it doesn't make sense to me why anyone would have one. - quote - > Second question: The trust made $18K in the stock market in 2007, and
Yes.> paid taxes on this. During 2008, it lost $25K. Can the trust do a > carryback of NOL on these losses? The example in the 1041 > instructions seems to imply that stock market losses are "non- > business" and can only be carried forward. Is this correct? - quote - > Also, I only pay his living expenses during the summer and Christmas
So the trust will claim the deduction for him? I didn't know that a> holidays. Since his trust pays more than 1/2 of his living expenses, > I'm thinking that I cannot claim him as a dependent--he meets all the > other requirements. Is this correct? trust could do that. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| in article e6e9f74b-308a-41a5-9dcf-1d5d520c251e...oglegroups.com, what-a-guy at reginald.wayne.richards[at]gmail.com wrote on 3/26/09 9:49 PM: - quote - > My son is a full-time college student, whose tuition and expenses are
return. Whether he reports a loss will depend on the character of the loss> almost completely paid by a trust for which I am the fiduciary. I've > filed a 1041 for the trust, reporting a loss. Do I also need to show > the loss on his personal 1040, line 17? The trust needs to issue him a K-1 and report the appropriate items on his in the trust. - quote - > Second question: The trust made $18K in the stock market in 2007, and
income to be distributed to the beneficiaries.> paid taxes on this. Most trusts treat capital gains and losses as corpus transactions, not - quote - > During 2008, it lost $25K. Can the trust do a
support.> carryback of NOL on these losses? The example in the 1041 > instructions seems to imply that stock market losses are "non- > business" and can only be carried forward. Is this correct? They are treated just like they are on your own return. > Also, I only pay his living expenses during the summer and Christmas > holidays. Since his trust pays more than 1/2 of his living expenses, > I'm thinking that I cannot claim him as a dependent--he meets all the > other requirements. Is this correct? Sounds like you can't claim him if the trust provides more than 50% of his Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My son is a full-time college student, whose tuition and expenses are almost completely paid by a trust for which I am the fiduciary. I've filed a 1041 for the trust, reporting a loss. Do I also need to show the loss on his personal 1040, line 17? Second question: The trust made $18K in the stock market in 2007, and paid taxes on this. During 2008, it lost $25K. Can the trust do a carryback of NOL on these losses? The example in the 1041 instructions seems to imply that stock market losses are "non- business" and can only be carried forward. Is this correct? Also, I only pay his living expenses during the summer and Christmas holidays. Since his trust pays more than 1/2 of his living expenses, I'm thinking that I cannot claim him as a dependent--he meets all the other requirements. Is this correct? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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