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Old 04-08-2009, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: Standard Deduction Increased due to Real Estate Taxes?

In misc.taxes.moderated, JoeTaxpayer wrote:

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> DF2 wrote:
> > I was surprised that there was no supporting form -- schedule A or
> > otherwise-- printed out by my tax program supporting the increased
> > line 40 "Itemized deductions (from Schedule A) or your standard
> > deduction (see left margin)" on form 1040.

> I just finished the forms for my 80+ yr old. I used TurboTax and saw the
> same thing. I pulled up a schedule A to enter the real estate tax, and
> it flowed to the standard deduction worksheet, properly giveing her the
> extra $500 deduction, but the Schedule A promptly evaporated. It did
> maintain the Sch A Tax and interest (keep for records) worksheet, but
> that was it.
> I bet this is one that many non-itemizers will miss.


I would probably have been one of them, were it not for reading MTM.
I have alerted friends.

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Old 04-08-2009, 01:15 PM
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DF2 wrote:

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> I was surprised that there was no supporting form -- schedule A or
> otherwise-- printed out by my tax program supporting the increased
> line 40 "Itemized deductions (from Schedule A) or your standard
> deduction (see left margin)" on form 1040.


I just finished the forms for my 80+ yr old. I used TurboTax and saw the
same thing. I pulled up a schedule A to enter the real estate tax, and
it flowed to the standard deduction worksheet, properly giveing her the
extra $500 deduction, but the Schedule A promptly evaporated. It did
maintain the Sch A Tax and interest (keep for records) worksheet, but
that was it.

I bet this is one that many non-itemizers will miss.
Joe

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Old 04-07-2009, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Standard Deduction Increased due to Real Estate Taxes?

In misc.taxes.moderated, Arthur Kamlet wrote:

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> In article <3Zudnf7-O4YiUFvUnZ2dnUVZ_guWnZ2d[at]earthlink.com> ,
> CWLee <cdubyalee[at]post.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > > Pages 34 and 35 of the 1040 instructions for 2008 IRS

> > returns speak of the standard deduction being increased,
> > under certain circumstances, due to real estate taxes.
> > > My standard deduction would be $5,450, if I paid no real

> > estate taxes. As I work through the worksheet on page 35,
> > with no earned income, born before 1.2.1944, filing
> > separately, and having paid real estate taxes of $2,000, I
> > find that my standard deduction becomes $2,450.
> > > It doesn't seem logical to me that my standard deduction

> > goes down just because I paid some real estate taxes - so I
> > think I'm not doing something correctly here.

> The right answer is 5950 unless filing status is MFJ.
> So re-read the line-by-line instruictions on that worksheet.


I was surprised that there was no supporting form -- schedule A or
otherwise-- printed out by my tax program supporting the increased
line 40 "Itemized deductions (from Schedule A) or your standard
deduction (see left margin)" on form 1040.

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Old 03-22-2009, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Standard Deduction Increased due to Real Estate Taxes?

In article <3Zudnf7-O4YiUFvUnZ2dnUVZ_guWnZ2d[at]earthlink.com> ,
CWLee <cdubyalee[at]post.harvard.edu> wrote:
- quote -

> Pages 34 and 35 of the 1040 instructions for 2008 IRS
> returns speak of the standard deduction being increased,
> under certain circumstances, due to real estate taxes.
> My standard deduction would be $5,450, if I paid no real
> estate taxes. As I work through the worksheet on page 35,
> with no earned income, born before 1.2.1944, filing
> separately, and having paid real estate taxes of $2,000, I
> find that my standard deduction becomes $2,450.
> It doesn't seem logical to me that my standard deduction
> goes down just because I paid some real estate taxes - so I
> think I'm not doing something correctly here.



The right answer is 5950 unless filing status is MFJ.
So re-read the line-by-line instruictions on that worksheet.
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Old 03-22-2009, 11:10 PM
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Default Standard Deduction Increased due to Real Estate Taxes?


Pages 34 and 35 of the 1040 instructions for 2008 IRS
returns speak of the standard deduction being increased,
under certain circumstances, due to real estate taxes.

My standard deduction would be $5,450, if I paid no real
estate taxes. As I work through the worksheet on page 35,
with no earned income, born before 1.2.1944, filing
separately, and having paid real estate taxes of $2,000, I
find that my standard deduction becomes $2,450.

It doesn't seem logical to me that my standard deduction
goes down just because I paid some real estate taxes - so I
think I'm not doing something correctly here.

Any enlightenment appreciated.

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cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.

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