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Old 04-18-2009, 06:33 PM
BreadWithSpam@fractious.net
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Rich Carreiro <rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com> writes:
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> BreadWithSpam[at]fractious.net writes:
> > Is is not the case that that information might still be transmitted
> > when doing an e-file? My understanding is that sometimes e-filing
> > will send more details like that for automated matching and without
> > it, there may be some delays in processing.

> From reject messages I've seen over the years, it appears
> that the payor documents efiling cares about are W-2s, W-2Gs,
> and 1099-Rs, since the software I've used (TaxWise) will generate
> efiles without EINs for issuers of 1099-DIV, 1099-INT, 1099-B,
> and 1099-MISC (and for that matter doesn't even give you a way
> to enter the EIN for those payors).


That matches the info in Pubs 1345/1346 which Art pointed out
in another response. After his reply, I went and started
reading them in more detail.

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> If you're really curious, there's a pub (1345, I think) that
> in very 1960s fashion lists the field-by-field specifications
> for efile data.


I was only passing curious. While a mildly interesting aside,
there are other pubs I need to spend more time reading...

Thanks Rich and Art


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Old 04-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Rich Carreiro
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BreadWithSpam[at]fractious.net writes:

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> Is is not the case that that information might still be transmitted
> when doing an e-file? My understanding is that sometimes e-filing
> will send more details like that for automated matching and without
> it, there may be some delays in processing.


> From reject messages I've seen over the years, it appears

that the payor documents efiling cares about are W-2s, W-2Gs,
and 1099-Rs, since the software I've used (TaxWise) will generate
efiles without EINs for issuers of 1099-DIV, 1099-INT, 1099-B,
and 1099-MISC (and for that matter doesn't even give you a way
to enter the EIN for those payors).

But when I've had some mismatches on W-2s or 1099-Rs because
of typos, those efiles have been rejected with a message about
a mismatch versus the "IRS Master File", so clearly the payor
info on those forms are being sent in.

If you're really curious, there's a pub (1345, I think) that
in very 1960s fashion lists the field-by-field specifications
for efile data.

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Old 04-16-2009, 03:11 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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In article <yobbpqxvg8b.fsf[at]panix1.panix.com> ,
<BreadWithSpam[at]fractious.net> wrote:
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> [quite late to this thread]
> Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> writes:
> > In article <gq1icr$9gt$1[at]reader1.panix.com> ,
> > kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
> > > As I said, it's entirely too nosy. Who cares about the EIN of
> > > dividend payer?
> > > It's a useful feature for record-keeping, to match up the worksheets in

> > the program against your 1099's.
> > But you're right, it doesn't go onto the tax form, so it's not necessary.

> Is is not the case that that information might still be transmitted
> when doing an e-file? My understanding is that sometimes e-filing
> will send more details like that for automated matching and without
> it, there may be some delays in processing.



Pubs 1345/1346 contain the specs for the 1040 e-file and EIN for
dividend payers is not part of those specs.
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:06 AM
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[quite late to this thread]

Barry Margolin <barmar[at]alum.mit.edu> writes:
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> In article <gq1icr$9gt$1[at]reader1.panix.com> ,
> kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:


> > As I said, it's entirely too nosy. Who cares about the EIN of
> > dividend payer?

> It's a useful feature for record-keeping, to match up the worksheets in
> the program against your 1099's.


> But you're right, it doesn't go onto the tax form, so it's not necessary.


Is is not the case that that information might still be transmitted
when doing an e-file? My understanding is that sometimes e-filing
will send more details like that for automated matching and without
it, there may be some delays in processing.


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Old 03-21-2009, 09:05 PM
Frank S. Duke, Jr.
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in article AJRwl.42597$3S3.16497[at]newsfe22.iad, Gary Brown at
garyjbrown[at]charter.net wrote on 3/20/09 8:03 PM:

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> Hi,
> TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
> stock. I don't have IDs for individual stocks but do for our broker. Do I
> use the broker's ID, look up the company's ID, or just leave it blank?
> Thanks,
> Gary

That is not required on the schedule B as far as I know. Leave it blank.
Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back

Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA
Cincinnati, OH USA

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Old 03-21-2009, 01:40 PM
Barry Margolin
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In article <gq1icr$9gt$1[at]reader1.panix.com> ,
kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:

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> In article <pgXwl.1482$SU3.969[at]nwrddc02.gnilink.net> ,
> Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
> > "Gary Brown" wrote:
> > > > TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
> > > stock.
> > > You have confused TaxAct by missing the instruction that you make only one

> > entry for the 1099-DIV (and that has only the broker's name and ID). You
> > don't list each stock.

> As I said, it's entirely too nosy. Who cares about the EIN of
> dividend payer?


It's a useful feature for record-keeping, to match up the worksheets in
the program against your 1099's.

But you're right, it doesn't go onto the tax form, so it's not necessary.

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Old 03-21-2009, 01:11 AM
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In article <pgXwl.1482$SU3.969[at]nwrddc02.gnilink.net> ,
Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
- quote -

> "Gary Brown" wrote:
> > TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
> > stock.

> You have confused TaxAct by missing the instruction that you make only one
> entry for the 1099-DIV (and that has only the broker's name and ID). You
> don't list each stock.



As I said, it's entirely too nosy. Who cares about the EIN of
dividend payer?
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:19 AM
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"Gary Brown" wrote:

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> TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
> stock.


You have confused TaxAct by missing the instruction that you make only one
entry for the 1099-DIV (and that has only the broker's name and ID). You
don't list each stock.

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Old 03-20-2009, 11:39 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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In article <AJRwl.42597$3S3.16497[at]newsfe22.iad> ,
Gary Brown <garyjbrown[at]charter.net> wrote:
- quote -

> Hi,
> TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
> stock. I don't have IDs for individual stocks but do for our broker. Do I
> use the broker's ID, look up the company's ID, or just leave it blank?




I think the program is being entirely too nosy. I'd disregard.

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Old 03-20-2009, 11:03 PM
Gary Brown
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Hi,

TaxAct, in the "Dividend Income" section, asks for Payer's ID for each
stock. I don't have IDs for individual stocks but do for our broker. Do I
use the broker's ID, look up the company's ID, or just leave it blank?

Thanks,
Gary

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