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| Arthur Kamlet wrote: - quote - > > Capital gains are taxed the same under AMT as they are under the regular
Well, it's beyond human comprehension; in my case, however, there's> > system. It is the level of income which triggers AMT, not the capital gains > > themselves. As AMTI rises above $150,000, you begin to lose the AMT > > exemption at the rate of 25%. Net result is that $1 in capital gains raises > > AMTI $1.25. > > > Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back > That's pretty much it. > Ron, you can find AMT popping up even if there's no state return. > Kaye Thomas takes a few more words than Frank to explain the > same problem -- capital gains increases income which pops you > over the AMT exemption amount. > See http://www.fairmark.com/amt/ltcg.htm no capital gain for 2008 (in fact, surprise!, a loss). The AMT comes entirely from the deduction of the Ohio tax due in 2008 on the capital gain in 2007, which deduction is big enough to trigger the AMT, if I understand it. That there's also a phaseout that hits the AMT in the same year as the capital gain is just additional perverse data, but I think I missed that. But who knows what turbotax is doing. -- rhhardin[at]mindspring.com On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <C5E2C9D3.1265D%dukefs[at]one.net> , Frank S. Duke, Jr. <dukefs[at]one.net> wrote: - quote - > in article 49BC4DCD.EE5[at]mindspring.com, Ron Hardin at > rhhardin[at]mindspring.com wrote on 3/15/09 1:43 PM: > > I expecting the rule that capital gains by > > themselves won't trigger the AMT. > > > Surprise! The next year, the Ohio taxes paid on > > the capital gain income cause a deduction which > > triggers the Federal AMT. > > > This is on capital gains alone. > > > Just as well I sold in 2007, however. > Capital gains are taxed the same under AMT as they are under the regular > system. It is the level of income which triggers AMT, not the capital gains > themselves. As AMTI rises above $150,000, you begin to lose the AMT > exemption at the rate of 25%. Net result is that $1 in capital gains raises > AMTI $1.25. > Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back That's pretty much it. Ron, you can find AMT popping up even if there's no state return. Kaye Thomas takes a few more words than Frank to explain the same problem -- capital gains increases income which pops you over the AMT exemption amount. See http://www.fairmark.com/amt/ltcg.htm -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| in article 49BC4DCD.EE5[at]mindspring.com, Ron Hardin at rhhardin[at]mindspring.com wrote on 3/15/09 1:43 PM: - quote - > I expecting the rule that capital gains by
system. It is the level of income which triggers AMT, not the capital gains> themselves won't trigger the AMT. > Surprise! The next year, the Ohio taxes paid on > the capital gain income cause a deduction which > triggers the Federal AMT. > This is on capital gains alone. > Just as well I sold in 2007, however. Capital gains are taxed the same under AMT as they are under the regular themselves. As AMTI rises above $150,000, you begin to lose the AMT exemption at the rate of 25%. Net result is that $1 in capital gains raises AMTI $1.25. Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I expecting the rule that capital gains by themselves won't trigger the AMT. Surprise! The next year, the Ohio taxes paid on the capital gain income cause a deduction which triggers the Federal AMT. This is on capital gains alone. Just as well I sold in 2007, however. -- rhhardin[at]mindspring.com On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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