researcher <maliburon64[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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You should have had a brief talk with a lawyer and done this
transaction properly in the first place. That would have been to give
your friend a security interest in the stock, not current ownership.
That would have allowed him to use the stock to pay himself back if you
defaulted. But the stock would stay in your name if you paid him back
as you should have.

Since you didn't do that, I'd treat it as if you had done that. For
that, your friend should have the stock transferred back to you, and
then treat it as if it was always in your name. If the IRS ever comes
knocking, tell them that the stock was being held by him, in trust for
you, as security for a loan, and that it was transferred back to you
when the loan was paid off. That would be proper and legal
justification, though whether the IRS would buy it is another story.

Stu

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researcher at maliburon64[at]gmail.com wrote on 3/12/09 9:28 PM:

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What do you mean you declared the loss when you transferred the shares. If
they were not sold, there is no loss. Did you sell them or give them away?

The donor basis and holding period of the shares becomes the recipient's
basis. If you had a formalized loan in which the shares were pledged as
security, the title to the shares would not have changed. Since it did, you
essentially gifted the shares to him. If it was more than the exemption, a
gift tax return might have even been appropriate.

To get the shares back, he has to initiate the transfer because they are his
shares. If he is unwilling to do that, you are up the creek. There should
be no reason why your friend cannot give the shares back to you. If he
does, they will have the same basis they had when you gave them to him.

Uncompensated advice guaranteed correct or double your money back

Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA
Cincinnati, OH USA

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Two years ago I transfered shares of stock to a friend in exchange for
a personal loan. At the time I had a substantial paper loss on these
shares but did declare it since my friend agreed to return them when I
repaid the loan. I repaid the loan and now the brokerage house states
they cannot return the shares in my name. The stock has risen and I
want the shares sold. If my friend sells them he has a taxable
event. How might I best work this situation out.

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