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Old 03-06-2009, 04:07 PM
Gil Faver
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Default Re: can I get my overpayment of tax back?


"Alan" <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> timberwave wrote:
> > My company granted me restricted stock in 2007, let's say $10,000
> > valued at that time. Taxes were due at the time of grant, so the
> > federal portion was 25%, or $2500. The stock price has declined to
> > only 5% of its previous value, and I sold it at the end of 2008 hoping
> > to get back the tax I paid. The problem is that Schedule D only
> > allows a maximum of $3000 loss in a year (bigger losses can be carried
> > forward), and I won't be able re recover anywhere near the $2500 that
> > I paid. It seems the IRS is unfairly profiting from my loss.
> > I don't understand why taxes were due at the time of grant of restricted

> stock. No taxes are due until the restrictions are lifted (typically when
> the stock vests) unless you make a Section 83(b) election to be taxed.
> All that being said, the IRS is not your problem. If you are dissatisfied
> with the $3000 limit on capital losses you need to contact the people who
> pass the tax laws: your representative in the US House of Representatives
> and your two US senators.


That is true. During the election cycle I heard a proposal to increase this
to $15,000 per year. That proposal seemed to go away in a hurry.

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Old 03-06-2009, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: can I get my overpayment of tax back?

timberwave wrote:
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> My company granted me restricted stock in 2007, let's say $10,000
> valued at that time. Taxes were due at the time of grant, so the
> federal portion was 25%, or $2500. The stock price has declined to
> only 5% of its previous value, and I sold it at the end of 2008 hoping
> to get back the tax I paid. The problem is that Schedule D only
> allows a maximum of $3000 loss in a year (bigger losses can be carried
> forward), and I won't be able re recover anywhere near the $2500 that
> I paid. It seems the IRS is unfairly profiting from my loss.

I don't understand why taxes were due at the time of grant of
restricted stock. No taxes are due until the restrictions are
lifted (typically when the stock vests) unless you make a Section
83(b) election to be taxed.

All that being said, the IRS is not your problem. If you are
dissatisfied with the $3000 limit on capital losses you need to
contact the people who pass the tax laws: your representative in
the US House of Representatives and your two US senators.

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Old 03-06-2009, 03:22 AM
timberwave
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Default can I get my overpayment of tax back?

My company granted me restricted stock in 2007, let's say $10,000
valued at that time. Taxes were due at the time of grant, so the
federal portion was 25%, or $2500. The stock price has declined to
only 5% of its previous value, and I sold it at the end of 2008 hoping
to get back the tax I paid. The problem is that Schedule D only
allows a maximum of $3000 loss in a year (bigger losses can be carried
forward), and I won't be able re recover anywhere near the $2500 that
I paid. It seems the IRS is unfairly profiting from my loss.

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