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| "Arvind" <arvind.phd[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:714ba733-ef2e-4977-af25-b46d0c810ca4[at]n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com... - quote - > I changed jobs last year. When I left my job, I was asked to pay back
1) The $9k had to be included on your 2007 W-2 as taxable. (However, as> my entire signing bonus and relocation bonus ($9000) they paid me in > 2007. > I heard from experts that I can itemize this amount in schedule A. I > have a few questions and would appreciate your answers. > 1. Can I deduct the money I paid back by itemizing it in schedule A? > 2. If yes, can I itemize the full amount I paid? I heard that I > cannot itemize the full amount, but have to subtract 2% of my gross > income from it. > 3. When I left my old company had to pay for my vacation hours. So > they deducted 9,000 from this to compensate for the signing bonus > +relocation I had to give back. That is, I did not really cut a check > to my company. I have a mail from them showing that 9,000 was taken > back. Will this be sufficient to claim this as a deduction? your signing bonus was contingent on being an employee for a certain amount of time - which you ultimately didn't stay for, you may not have had an "unrestricted right" and therefore it might have been excluded from your 2007 pay.) 2) The $9k taken from your pay in 2008 had to NOT reduce your 2008 W-2. (Technically, this yields an improper result under IRC Section 1341, but when the employer recaptures it and excludes it from pay, you've received your benefit of repayment). If BOTH conditions are met, then you have a $9k deduction on line 28 of your 2008 Schedule A. Your questions: 1) Yes - subject to the above. 2) Yes; No. It is NOT subject to the 2% floor because the amount exceeds $3k. 3) No. Depends on 2007. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 4, 9:18 am, Arvind <arvind....[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I changed jobs last year. When I left my job, I was asked to pay back
If the 9k is included in your income (that is, in your W2 at the end> my entire signing bonus and relocation bonus ($9000) they paid me in > 2007. > I heard from experts that I can itemize this amount in schedule A. I > have a few questions and would appreciate your answers. > 1. Can I deduct the money I paid back by itemizing it in schedule A? > 2. If yes, can I itemize the full amount I paid? I heard that I > cannot itemize the full amount, but have to subtract 2% of my gross > income from it. > 3. When I left my old company had to pay for my vacation hours. So > they deducted 9,000 from this to compensate for the signing bonus > +relocation I had to give back. That is, I did not really cut a check > to my company. I have a mail from them showing that 9,000 was taken > back. Will this be sufficient to claim this as a deduction? of the year), then you can deduct it. So pay attention to your W2 when you receive it. You're right about the 2% rule. The other option, which will usually yield a better result, is to take a tax credit using section 1341. See http://www.irs.gov/irm/part21/ch06s11.html and search for "IRC Section 1341". -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Arvind <arvind.phd[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I changed jobs last year. When I left my job, I was asked to pay back
It seems to me you have no deduction because you never returned> my entire signing bonus and relocation bonus ($9000) they paid me in > 2007. [snip] > 3. When I left my old company had to pay for my vacation hours. So > they deducted 9,000 from this to compensate for the signing bonus > +relocation I had to give back. That is, I did not really cut a check > to my company. I have a mail from them showing that 9,000 was taken > back. Will this be sufficient to claim this as a deduction? any net overpayment. Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Hi, I changed jobs last year. When I left my job, I was asked to pay back my entire signing bonus and relocation bonus ($9000) they paid me in 2007. I heard from experts that I can itemize this amount in schedule A. I have a few questions and would appreciate your answers. 1. Can I deduct the money I paid back by itemizing it in schedule A? 2. If yes, can I itemize the full amount I paid? I heard that I cannot itemize the full amount, but have to subtract 2% of my gross income from it. 3. When I left my old company had to pay for my vacation hours. So they deducted 9,000 from this to compensate for the signing bonus +relocation I had to give back. That is, I did not really cut a check to my company. I have a mail from them showing that 9,000 was taken back. Will this be sufficient to claim this as a deduction? Thanks, Arvind -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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