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Old 03-01-2009, 03:20 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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NancyR wrote:
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> I'm the original poster and want to thank you for your responses. I
> received faulty information from the IRA dept. of my bank regarding being
> able to take a distribution by April 15, 2009 but declaring it as income in
> 2008.
> Nancy

And a valuable lesson was learned, one that we repeat to our clients
quite often. And that is don't get tax advice or believe tax advice
from bank officials, hairdressers/barbers, or used car salesmen.
Always check with you competent local tax pro.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-28-2009, 05:49 PM
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I'm the original poster and want to thank you for your responses. I
received faulty information from the IRA dept. of my bank regarding being
able to take a distribution by April 15, 2009 but declaring it as income in
2008.

Nancy

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Old 02-28-2009, 12:18 AM
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In article <W4%pl.11432$hc1.11427[at]flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com> ,
Alan <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet wrote:
> > In article <go9dsa$nqr$1[at]news.motzarella.org> ,
> > JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > NancyR wrote:
> > > > I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to take
> > > > out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What would
> > > > be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for

> 2008 is
> > > > almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2 years
> > > > old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.
> > > You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.
> > > If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
> > > nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
> > > numbers.
> > > > Actually if OP turned age 70 1/2 in 2008, it is possible to

> > take the 2008 distribution by April 1 2009 and still be OK.

> Art:
> A distribution taken in 2009 is taxable income in 2009. She
> wanted to take the income into 2008.



Ah? I parsed this as saying OP wanted to take 5000 for the 2008
RMD and 5000 for the 2009 RMD.


But with at least three separate posters parsing it as recognizing
income in 2008 and then in 2009, I probably need to review English 101
again.
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Old 02-28-2009, 12:04 AM
CMS, VA CPA
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"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message
news:go9u18$lku$1[at]reader1.panix.com...
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> In article <go9dsa$nqr$1[at]news.motzarella.org> ,
> JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > NancyR wrote:
> > > I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to
> > > take
> > > out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What
> > > would
> > > be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for
> > > 2008 is
> > > almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2
> > > years
> > > old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.
> > > You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.

> > If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
> > nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
> > numbers.

> Actually if OP turned age 70 1/2 in 2008, it is possible to
> take the 2008 distribution by April 1 2009 and still be OK.
> --



Yes, but it would still be 2009 taxable income. Since the OP is past 59 1/2
and the early withdrawal penalty does not apply, the OP can do pretty much
whatever she wants. It is too late for a 2008 taxable event which is what
the OP wanted to do.

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> ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 02-27-2009, 11:12 PM
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Alan wrote:
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> Arthur Kamlet wrote:
> > In article <go9dsa$nqr$1[at]news.motzarella.org> ,
> > JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> > > You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.
> > > If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
> > > nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
> > > numbers.
> > > Actually if OP turned age 70 1/2 in 2008, it is possible to

> > take the 2008 distribution by April 1 2009 and still be OK.

> Art:
> A distribution taken in 2009 is taxable income in 2009. She wanted to
> take the income into 2008.


For those playing the home version of this game, Art correctly stated
that a Required Minimum Distribution for the year in which you turn
70-1/2 may be taken by April 1 of the next year, further distribution
are required to be taken in the same year, based on prior year's 12/31
value. As Alan clarified, that wasn't really the question, it was about
taking a taxable distribution in 2008, which cannot be done as it's now
2009. Thanks for joining, drive home safely....

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Old 02-27-2009, 10:56 PM
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Arthur Kamlet wrote:
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> In article <go9dsa$nqr$1[at]news.motzarella.org> ,
> JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote:
> > > NancyR wrote:
> > > I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to take
> > > out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What would
> > > be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for 2008 is
> > > almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2 years
> > > old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.

> > You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.
> > If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
> > nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
> > numbers.

> Actually if OP turned age 70 1/2 in 2008, it is possible to
> take the 2008 distribution by April 1 2009 and still be OK.

Art:

A distribution taken in 2009 is taxable income in 2009. She
wanted to take the income into 2008.

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Old 02-27-2009, 10:46 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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In article <go9dsa$nqr$1[at]news.motzarella.org> ,
JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote:
- quote -

> NancyR wrote:
> > I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to take
> > out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What would
> > be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for 2008 is
> > almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2 years
> > old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.

> You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.
> If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
> nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
> numbers.



Actually if OP turned age 70 1/2 in 2008, it is possible to
take the 2008 distribution by April 1 2009 and still be OK.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:11 PM
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NancyR wrote:
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> I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to take
> out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What would
> be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for 2008 is
> almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2 years
> old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.


You cannot make 2008 withdrawal any more. Dec 31 was your deadline.
If you really have so little taxable income, you may be able to take
nearly all $10,000 now and pay no tax, but that depends on your exact
numbers.

Joe

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Old 02-27-2009, 05:04 PM
NancyR
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Default IRA Question

I have an $13,000 IRA CD that is maturing in a few days. I'd like to take
out $5000 for 2008 and $5000 for 2009, leaving $3000 as an IRA. What would
be the best way to document this for the IRS. My taxable income for 2008 is
almost nothing and should be the same for 2009. I'm way past 59 1/2 years
old so I don't have any early withdrawal penalty to deal with.

Nancy

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