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Old 02-24-2009, 12:32 AM
Drew Edmundson
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Default Re: Missing mileage ledger

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:48:56 EST, "Charlie Darwin" <cd[at]evo.net> wrote:

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> "San Diego CPA" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:W1sol.11160$hc1.9294[at]flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
> > > "Steve Pope" <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote in message

> > news:gnsuf7$j1a$1[at]blue.rahul.net...
> > > Robert H <robert.hatcher[at]l-3com.com> wrote:
> > > > > > My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
> > > > last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
> > > > deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
> > > > in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
> > > > wants to be prepared when she meets with him.

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> I would think that the IRS wouldn't disallow all mileage costs even if you
> lost your log.
> If you are running a business and show both income, it's reasonable to
> assume that you had to do some at least driving to generate that income-- as
> another poster mentioned, post office, the Office Depot, bank, customer
> locations, etc.


At least in one case IRS did deny the whole thing. AICPA has an
article about the case at:

http://www.journalofaccountancy.com/...utoExpense.htm

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Old 02-23-2009, 02:48 PM
Charlie Darwin
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Default Re: Missing mileage ledger

"San Diego CPA" <gcollect1[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:W1sol.11160$hc1.9294[at]flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
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> "Steve Pope" <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote in message
> news:gnsuf7$j1a$1[at]blue.rahul.net...
> > Robert H <robert.hatcher[at]l-3com.com> wrote:
> > > > My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
> > > last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
> > > deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
> > > in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
> > > wants to be prepared when she meets with him.
> > > This is one where your accountant's opinion is the one that

> > counts, since it is he who would defend the return should IRS
> > choose to examine it.
> > > At least that's my opinion.
> > > Steve

> I agree w/ Steve. If this is a new client, I'm a little skeptical,
> if this is a long-time client that has a history of bringing good
> records, I'm less concerned, accept their explanation
> and inform them of the risks should the records be requested
> on audit.


I would think that the IRS wouldn't disallow all mileage costs even if you
lost your log.

If you are running a business and show both income, it's reasonable to
assume that you had to do some at least driving to generate that income-- as
another poster mentioned, post office, the Office Depot, bank, customer
locations, etc.

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Old 02-23-2009, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Missing mileage ledger


"Steve Pope" <spope33[at]speedymail.org> wrote in message
news:gnsuf7$j1a$1[at]blue.rahul.net...
- quote -

> Robert H <robert.hatcher[at]l-3com.com> wrote:
> > My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
> > last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
> > deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
> > in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
> > wants to be prepared when she meets with him.

> This is one where your accountant's opinion is the one that
> counts, since it is he who would defend the return should IRS
> choose to examine it.
> At least that's my opinion.
> Steve


I agree w/ Steve. If this is a new client, I'm a little skeptical,
if this is a long-time client that has a history of bringing good
records, I'm less concerned, accept their explanation
and inform them of the risks should the records be requested
on audit.

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Old 02-23-2009, 12:10 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"Robert H" <robert.hatcher[at]l-3com.com> wrote
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> My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
> last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
> deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
> in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
> wants to be prepared when she meets with him.





While these records are supposed to be kept on a regular basis throughout
the year, it's not unheard of in cases where the records are lost (theft of
vehicle, etc) to reconstruct them from other substantiating records. For
every bank deposit there would be a trip to and from the bank. Seems
logical. Each purchase at Office Depot should mean a trip to Office Depot.
Seems logical. Check her appointment calendar. For every out of the office
appointment she must have miles driven. Seems logical.

So, a quick run through your checking account records, credit card
statements, and other records like a calendar, day-timer or crackberry might
provide clues to where she may have driven.

Copying 2007 year data is not sufficient.





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Watkinsville, Georgia

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Old 02-23-2009, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Missing mileage ledger

Robert H <robert.hatcher[at]l-3com.com> wrote:

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> My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
> last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
> deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
> in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
> wants to be prepared when she meets with him.


This is one where your accountant's opinion is the one that
counts, since it is he who would defend the return should IRS
choose to examine it.

At least that's my opinion.

Steve

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Old 02-23-2009, 12:26 AM
Robert H
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Default Missing mileage ledger

My wife owns a small business. She has lost her mileage ledger for
last year. Can she average previous years records and claim the
deduction? She has an accountant run her taxes and will be seeing him
in a few days. He is hard to speak with this time of year and she just
wants to be prepared when she meets with him.

Thanks
Robert

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