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Old 02-21-2009, 11:23 PM
Alan
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Default Re: Form 8332 - Has anyone encountered this problem before?

Mark Bole wrote:
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> Mark Bole wrote:
> > ChenangoBusinessServices[at]hotmail.com wrote:
> > > A divorced couple have been alternatingly sharing a dependent for some
> > > time on a form 8332 that has been in existence.
> > > > > The child is now an adult,23, full time students living on campus.
> > > The custodial parent(mother) is supporting the student, the father is
> > > not.
> > > > > In 2008 the Father whose turn it is to claim the dependent under the
> > > 8332, has been laid off and income not qualifies him for the EITC.
> > > > > The Student has not lived with the father at all, nor receives
> > > support.
> > > > > Does the 8332 qualify the Father for the EITC alone?
> > > No, and it never did.

> FWIW, I withdraw that last part about "never did". I realize that the
> uniform definition of a child is neither uniform nor a definition, and
> has changed and continues to change over the years.
> Given that UDC first applied to tax year 2005, the statute of
> limitations should soon run out for most returns filed in error that year.
> -Mark Bole

Prior to the 2005 UDC, the age and residency requirements for the
EITC were identical to the UDC. I also believe the relationship
test was also the same.
The child had to live with you for more than six months. A
noncustodial parent could not claim the EITC.

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Old 02-20-2009, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Form 8332 - Has anyone encountered this problem before?

Mark Bole wrote:
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> ChenangoBusinessServices[at]hotmail.com wrote:
> > A divorced couple have been alternatingly sharing a dependent for some
> > time on a form 8332 that has been in existence.
> > > The child is now an adult,23, full time students living on campus.

> > The custodial parent(mother) is supporting the student, the father is
> > not.
> > > In 2008 the Father whose turn it is to claim the dependent under the

> > 8332, has been laid off and income not qualifies him for the EITC.
> > > The Student has not lived with the father at all, nor receives

> > support.
> > > Does the 8332 qualify the Father for the EITC alone?

> No, and it never did.


FWIW, I withdraw that last part about "never did". I realize that the
uniform definition of a child is neither uniform nor a definition, and
has changed and continues to change over the years.

Given that UDC first applied to tax year 2005, the statute of
limitations should soon run out for most returns filed in error that year.

-Mark Bole

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Old 02-19-2009, 12:58 PM
Mark Bole
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Default Re: Form 8332 - Has anyone encountered this problem before?

ChenangoBusinessServices[at]hotmail.com wrote:
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> A divorced couple have been alternatingly sharing a dependent for some
> time on a form 8332 that has been in existence.
> The child is now an adult,23, full time students living on campus.
> The custodial parent(mother) is supporting the student, the father is
> not.
> In 2008 the Father whose turn it is to claim the dependent under the
> 8332, has been laid off and income not qualifies him for the EITC.
> The Student has not lived with the father at all, nor receives
> support.
> Does the 8332 qualify the Father for the EITC alone?


No, and it never did. The 8332 only allows the non-custodial parent to
claim dependency exemption, Child Tax Credit (incl Additional CTC), and
education-related benefits. Only the custodial parent can claim EIC,
Head of Household, and dependent care credits, regardless of the 8332.

The father might be eligible for EIC without any qualifying children if
his earned income and AGI is below $12,880 but greater than zero. See
Pub. 17 chapter 36.

-Mark Bole

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Old 02-19-2009, 12:44 PM
ChenangoBusinessServices@hotmail.com
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Default Form 8332 - Has anyone encountered this problem before?

A divorced couple have been alternatingly sharing a dependent for some
time on a form 8332 that has been in existence.

The child is now an adult,23, full time students living on campus.
The custodial parent(mother) is supporting the student, the father is
not.

In 2008 the Father whose turn it is to claim the dependent under the
8332, has been laid off and income not qualifies him for the EITC.

The Student has not lived with the father at all, nor receives
support.

Does the 8332 qualify the Father for the EITC alone?


Noel Nichols
Chenango Business Services

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