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Old 02-18-2009, 11:54 PM
JohnS
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Default Re: Cancellation of debt -- Insolvent -- Form 982

On Feb 17, 8:26*pm, Mark Bole <ma...[at]pacbell.net> wrote:
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> JohnS wrote:
> > > From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement.

> My condolences.
> > I've been trying
> > to work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four
> > credit card companies. *I was able to make a settlement with one last
> > year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for
> > simplicity.)
> > I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as
> > income. *But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's
> > excluded from income.

> To the extent of your insolvency. *It's not a binary condition.
> > On form 982 I've checked the:
> > 1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title
> > 11 case)"
> > and on line 2:
> > "Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", *I put
> > in the $1000.
> > Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't *that clear, but I'm
> > assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040
> > Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it
> > off. *(I don't see any connection between the two forms.)
> > Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit?

> You should have records and a worksheet to back up your insolvency
> calculation, although they do not need to be filed with your return. *In
> a quick Internet search, I found one simple example (Legal Services of
> Northern Virginia):
> http://www.lsnv.org/Debt_Cancellation_Vignette.doc
> but more thorough worksheets should be available wherever EA's and CPA's
> work, in companies both large and small.
> -Mark Bole


Thanks Mark.

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Old 02-18-2009, 01:26 AM
Mark Bole
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Default Re: Cancellation of debt -- Insolvent -- Form 982

JohnS wrote:
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> > From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement.

My condolences.


- quote -

> I've been trying
> to work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four
> credit card companies. I was able to make a settlement with one last
> year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for
> simplicity.)
> I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as
> income. But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's
> excluded from income.


To the extent of your insolvency. It's not a binary condition.

- quote -

> On form 982 I've checked the:
> 1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title
> 11 case)"
> and on line 2:
> "Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", I put
> in the $1000.
> Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't that clear, but I'm
> assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040
> Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it
> off. (I don't see any connection between the two forms.)
> Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit?



You should have records and a worksheet to back up your insolvency
calculation, although they do not need to be filed with your return. In
a quick Internet search, I found one simple example (Legal Services of
Northern Virginia):

http://www.lsnv.org/Debt_Cancellation_Vignette.doc

but more thorough worksheets should be available wherever EA's and CPA's
work, in companies both large and small.

-Mark Bole

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Old 02-17-2009, 09:58 PM
JohnS
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Default Cancellation of debt -- Insolvent -- Form 982

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> From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement. I've been trying
to work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four
credit card companies. I was able to make a settlement with one last
year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for
simplicity.)

I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as
income. But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's
excluded from income.

On form 982 I've checked the:
1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title
11 case)"
and on line 2:
"Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", I put
in the $1000.

Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't that clear, but I'm
assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040
Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it
off. (I don't see any connection between the two forms.)

Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit?

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 
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