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| On Feb 17, 8:26*pm, Mark Bole <ma...[at]pacbell.net> wrote: - quote - > JohnS wrote:
Thanks Mark.> > > From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement. > My condolences. > > I've been trying > > to work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four > > credit card companies. *I was able to make a settlement with one last > > year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for > > simplicity.) > > I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as > > income. *But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's > > excluded from income. > To the extent of your insolvency. *It's not a binary condition. > > On form 982 I've checked the: > > 1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title > > 11 case)" > > and on line 2: > > "Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", *I put > > in the $1000. > > Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't *that clear, but I'm > > assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040 > > Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it > > off. *(I don't see any connection between the two forms.) > > Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit? > You should have records and a worksheet to back up your insolvency > calculation, although they do not need to be filed with your return. *In > a quick Internet search, I found one simple example (Legal Services of > Northern Virginia): > http://www.lsnv.org/Debt_Cancellation_Vignette.doc > but more thorough worksheets should be available wherever EA's and CPA's > work, in companies both large and small. > -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| JohnS wrote: - quote - > > From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement.
My condolences.- quote - > I've been trying
To the extent of your insolvency. It's not a binary condition.> to work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four > credit card companies. I was able to make a settlement with one last > year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for > simplicity.) > I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as > income. But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's > excluded from income. - quote - > On form 982 I've checked the: > 1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title > 11 case)" > and on line 2: > "Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", I put > in the $1000. > Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't that clear, but I'm > assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040 > Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it > off. (I don't see any connection between the two forms.) > Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit? You should have records and a worksheet to back up your insolvency calculation, although they do not need to be filed with your return. In a quick Internet search, I found one simple example (Legal Services of Northern Virginia): http://www.lsnv.org/Debt_Cancellation_Vignette.doc but more thorough worksheets should be available wherever EA's and CPA's work, in companies both large and small. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > From every definition I can find, I'm insolvement. I've been trying
credit card companies. I was able to make a settlement with one lastto work things out and pay at least a portion of my debt to four year and got a 1099C form from them for $1000 (rounding it off for simplicity.) I understand that if I had been solvent that this would qualify as income. But since I'm insolvent, as far as I understand, it's excluded from income. On form 982 I've checked the: 1b "Discharge of indebtedness to the extent insolvent (not in a title 11 case)" and on line 2: "Total of discharged indebtedness excluded from gross income", I put in the $1000. Either I'm dense or the instructions aren't that clear, but I'm assume this means I leave the $1000 off as reported income on the 1040 Form and that Form 982 is essentially an explanation of why I left it off. (I don't see any connection between the two forms.) Or is that just an open invitation for an IRS audit? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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