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| On Feb 17, 4:07 pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote: - quote - > <snd...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steve ,> > As for why would I ever want to do this , it goes like this ( numbers > > are different from my previous example where I was rounding them > > down ) > > Today ----> $645,000 interest only mortgage due to reset in less than > > a year ( [at] 5.25% ) > > if I try to refinance the whole amount I go "under" super jumbo > > category and rates are much higher at that level , but if > > I split into two parts ( $415,000 30 years + $235,000 HELOC ) I get > > much much lower rate on the first one ( now it is not jumbo but > > conforming ) > > and I could get HELOC for prime -0.5% ) > It makes perfect sense to get a conforming loan up to the > conforming loan limit (which depends on where you live), and a > second loan for the rest of the money you need. > What you might want to consider -- probably you've already > looked at this -- is getting a conventional > second mortgage loan rather than a HELOC. HELOC's are > (almost) all variable interest rates and that rate might > go up. (I'm inclined to say, will go up.) A conventional second > mortgage could be fixed rate, could be interest only with a five > or seven year balloon, and might save you some money. Make the second > loan as small as you can is my advice. > Good luck -- > Steve yes I did consider this , but I need "second" to have as small as possible monthly payment ( and that is where interest only HELOC comes to play ) due to my restricted monthly cash flow ![]() Again thanks to everyone who took time to answer my question sndobo -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sndobo[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at
No, a bank HELOC in and of itself has no particular deductibility limit> $100,000 ) , associated with it. - quote - > but in my case HELOC
As has already been answered, the interest on refinanced acquisition> would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of > the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell > me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to > deduct interest on the whole $200,000 debt is still deductible. Part of the problem is that what a bank calls "equity loan", "first", or "second" mortgage, etc., has nothing to do with what the tax folks consider to be either acquisition or equity debt. Another part of the problem is that the various balances you amortize or pay off under the repayment terms of your loans do not necessarily match the balances of acquistion and equity debt for tax purposes. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 17, 2:33*pm, Alan <sfcnm-...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > snd...[at]gmail.com wrote:
Alan ,> > Hi , > > I would really appreciate any help with following . I am thinking > > about refinancing my mortgage and > > one of the options would be following : > > existing 30 year mortgage $600,000 ----> refi into two > > first mortgage *30 year $ 400,000 + HELOC $200,000 > > My question is this : > > I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at > > $100,000 ) , but in my case HELOC > > would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of > > the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell > > me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to > > deduct interest on the whole $200,000 > > Thank you very much > > sndobo > Assuming that the $600K was home acquisition debt and/or > grandfathered debt, then when you refinance with debt secured by > the house, the new debt is still home acquisition debt and/or > grandfathered debt up to $600,000. The interest you pay on the > two loans would be tax deductible. thanks a lot !! Yes , that is the case . sndobo -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| <sndobo[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > As for why would I ever want to do this , it goes like this ( numbers
It makes perfect sense to get a conforming loan up to the> are different from my previous example where I was rounding them > down ) > Today ----> $645,000 interest only mortgage due to reset in less than > a year ( [at] 5.25% ) > if I try to refinance the whole amount I go "under" super jumbo > category and rates are much higher at that level , but if > I split into two parts ( $415,000 30 years + $235,000 HELOC ) I get > much much lower rate on the first one ( now it is not jumbo but > conforming ) > and I could get HELOC for prime -0.5% ) conforming loan limit (which depends on where you live), and a second loan for the rest of the money you need. What you might want to consider -- probably you've already looked at this -- is getting a conventional second mortgage loan rather than a HELOC. HELOC's are (almost) all variable interest rates and that rate might go up. (I'm inclined to say, will go up.) A conventional second mortgage could be fixed rate, could be interest only with a five or seven year balloon, and might save you some money. Make the second loan as small as you can is my advice. Good luck -- Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sndobo[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Hi ,
grandfathered debt, then when you refinance with debt secured by> I would really appreciate any help with following . I am thinking > about refinancing my mortgage and > one of the options would be following : > existing 30 year mortgage $600,000 ----> refi into two > first mortgage 30 year $ 400,000 + HELOC $200,000 > My question is this : > I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at > $100,000 ) , but in my case HELOC > would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of > the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell > me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to > deduct interest on the whole $200,000 > Thank you very much > sndobo Assuming that the $600K was home acquisition debt and/or the house, the new debt is still home acquisition debt and/or grandfathered debt up to $600,000. The interest you pay on the two loans would be tax deductible. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 17, 1:09*pm, "Stuart A. Bronstein" <spamt...[at]lexregia.comwrote: - quote - > snd...[at]gmail.com wrote:
Stu,> > I would really appreciate any help with following . I am thinking > > about refinancing my mortgage and > > one of the options would be following : > > existing 30 year mortgage $600,000 ----> refi into two > > first mortgage *30 year $ 400,000 + HELOC $200,000 > Why in the world would you want to do that? *Your interest rate will > probably go up (or higher than if you refinanced fully as another 30 > year mortgage). > If you're looking to pay it down more quickly, you can do that with > your current mortgage. *Just send in the extra amount you want to pay, > and it will reduce your principal balance and thus the amount of time > you have left to pay. > > My question is this : > > I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at > > $100,000 ) , but in my case HELOC > > would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of > > the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell > > me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to > > deduct interest on the whole $200,000 > Since it is all secured by the house, you should be able to deduct all > the interest. *But someone who knows more than I about this kind of > thing will correct me if I'm wrong. > Stu thank you for your answer , but still not sure if I could do it or not ![]() As for why would I ever want to do this , it goes like this ( numbers are different from my previous example where I was rounding them down ) Today ----> $645,000 interest only mortgage due to reset in less than a year ( [at] 5.25% ) if I try to refinance the whole amount I go "under" super jumbo category and rates are much higher at that level , but if I split into two parts ( $415,000 30 years + $235,000 HELOC ) I get much much lower rate on the first one ( now it is not jumbo but conforming ) and I could get HELOC for prime -0.5% ) Again thanks for taking time to answer my question sndobo -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sndobo[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > I would really appreciate any help with following . I am thinking
Why in the world would you want to do that? Your interest rate will> about refinancing my mortgage and > one of the options would be following : > existing 30 year mortgage $600,000 ----> refi into two > first mortgage 30 year $ 400,000 + HELOC $200,000 probably go up (or higher than if you refinanced fully as another 30 year mortgage). If you're looking to pay it down more quickly, you can do that with your current mortgage. Just send in the extra amount you want to pay, and it will reduce your principal balance and thus the amount of time you have left to pay. - quote - > My question is this :
Since it is all secured by the house, you should be able to deduct all> I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at > $100,000 ) , but in my case HELOC > would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of > the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell > me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to > deduct interest on the whole $200,000 the interest. But someone who knows more than I about this kind of thing will correct me if I'm wrong. Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Hi , I would really appreciate any help with following . I am thinking about refinancing my mortgage and one of the options would be following : existing 30 year mortgage $600,000 ----> refi into two first mortgage 30 year $ 400,000 + HELOC $200,000 My question is this : I know that HELOC has limit for mortgage interest deduction ( at $100,000 ) , but in my case HELOC would not be used to "take" money out of the house , but as a part of the loan . I was wandering if anyone could tell me if this limit would apply to my "case" , or I would be able to deduct interest on the whole $200,000 Thank you very much sndobo -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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