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Old 02-05-2009, 07:51 PM
Jane
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Default Re: Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

On Feb 4, 11:47*pm, kam...[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
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> In article <3e712c13-e9da-4c42-aaba-142594458...[at]k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com> ,
> Jane *<googlemail2...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I have a 401k with John Hancock. *I recently received a letter telling
> > me what the MD is for 2009. *I contacted them to tell them about the
> > law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.
> > They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
> > that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.
> > They're nuts, right?
> > I don't know who to contact about this or how to prove to them that
> > they are wrong.
> > Or - are they right?

> Their lawyers haven't issued the memo yet. Hope they do.
> Meanwhile if you receive a distribution, within 60 days roll it into
> an IRA. * That may be the best you can do.
> --
> ArtKamlet *at *a o l dot c o m *Columbus OH *K2PZH


good idea. thanks

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Old 02-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

In article <3e712c13-e9da-4c42-aaba-142594458605[at]k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com> ,
Jane <googlemail2003[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I have a 401k with John Hancock. I recently received a letter telling
> me what the MD is for 2009. I contacted them to tell them about the
> law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.
> They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
> that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.
> They're nuts, right?
> I don't know who to contact about this or how to prove to them that
> they are wrong.
> Or - are they right?



Their lawyers haven't issued the memo yet. Hope they do.



Meanwhile if you receive a distribution, within 60 days roll it into
an IRA. That may be the best you can do.
--


ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 02-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Alan
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Default Re: Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

Jane wrote:
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> I have a 401k with John Hancock. I recently received a letter telling
> me what the MD is for 2009. I contacted them to tell them about the
> law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.
> They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
> that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.
> They're nuts, right?
> I don't know who to contact about this or how to prove to them that
> they are wrong.
> Or - are they right?

This makes no sense, especially for John Hancock. The change in
the law allows a taxpayer to forgo taking their RMD. There is
nothing in the law change that says anything is optional for a
plan. This comment has come up before and what I have discovered
is that many plans are informing their members that if they have
set up automatic distributions of any kind (monthly, quarterly,
once a year, etc.) that distribution will take place in 2009
unless they inform the plan to suspend it.

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Old 02-04-2009, 10:38 PM
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Default Re: Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

On Feb 4, 2:19*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "Jane" wrote:
> > I have a 401k with John Hancock. *I recently received a letter telling
> > me what the MD is for 2009. *I contacted them to tell them about the
> > law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.
> > They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
> > that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.
> > They're nuts, right?

> No, you are if you leave your money there. *Can you roll it over without
> incurring some sort of fee?
> --
> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD


This is actually my husband's 401k and he refuses.

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Old 02-04-2009, 06:19 PM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

"Jane" wrote:

- quote -

> I have a 401k with John Hancock. I recently received a letter telling
> me what the MD is for 2009. I contacted them to tell them about the
> law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.
> They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
> that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.
> They're nuts, right?


No, you are if you leave your money there. Can you roll it over without
incurring some sort of fee?

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 02-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Jane
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Default Company forcing me to take 2009 Minimum Distribution

I have a 401k with John Hancock. I recently received a letter telling
me what the MD is for 2009. I contacted them to tell them about the
law that Bush signed waiving the MD for this year.

They told me that accepting the waiver is "optional" for the Plan and
that JH decided that the MD for 2009 was still mandatory.

They're nuts, right?

I don't know who to contact about this or how to prove to them that
they are wrong.

Or - are they right?

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 
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