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| In article <6Mril.16881$c45.2816[at]nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com> , Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote: - quote - > Phil Marti wrote:
If I had more investments or stock transactions than this one, I might> > Don't try to do this through the interview. Use Forms mode to directly > > enter the stock sale to a 1099-B input screen. > If you have bought the premium version or higher of this software, I > believe the interview will handle it just fine. Probably true of other > DIY software as well -- to some extent, you get what you pay for. > -Mark Bole have. Having just this one, the Deluxe version of Turbotax is just fine for my needs, thanks to the help from the kind folks here. With their helpful information, I was able to use the Schedule D form directly to enter the information. Turbo tax actually did make it easy to the use form, because once you enter the type of Stock transaction, it highlights the fields in which you need to enter information. Bonnie -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > Don't try to do this through the interview. Use Forms mode to directly
If you have bought the premium version or higher of this software, I> enter the stock sale to a 1099-B input screen. believe the interview will handle it just fine. Probably true of other DIY software as well -- to some extent, you get what you pay for. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| joeu2004 <joeu2004[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > On Feb 3, 7:15*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
Thanks. It could easily have changed in the last few> > Phil Marti <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote: > > > On Schedule D you'll wind up with a short-term loss equal > > > to the fees. > > Actually it will be a different, small amount. *This is because > > the W2 figure is based on the closing stock price on the day > > of the transaction, whereas the sales price on the 1099 is > > based on whatever price the trade was actually made at, > > intraday. > For exercise-and-sell transactions that occur on the same > day, companies are permitted to use the sales price as the > FMV (basis). That might be a "recent" change (i.e., some > time in the last decade!). I remember that it used to be as > you describe. years, without me noticing. Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 3, 7:15*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote: - quote - > Phil Marti <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
For exercise-and-sell transactions that occur on the same> > *The amount deemed to be wages (the box 12 "V" > > amount) adds to your basis. *On Schedule D you'll > > wind up with a short-term loss equal to the fees. > Actually it will be a different, small amount. *This is because > the W2 figure is based on the closing stock price on the day > of the transaction, whereas the sales price on the 1099 is > based on whatever price the trade was actually made at, > intraday. day, companies are permitted to use the sales price as the FMV (basis). That might be a "recent" change (i.e., some time in the last decade!). I remember that it used to be as you describe. (But in the past, the W2 figure was the FMV as determined by the company. That is not always the closing price. Some companies use the daily average. There might be other accepted practices.) -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Bonnie Forman" wrote:
Actually it will be a different, small amount. This is because> > In 2008 I exercised some of my company stock options I was given in > > 2002. It was a Cashless transaction. My companies stock options are > > handled through Merril Lynch. [snip] > Yes you do, and no, it won't. The amount deemed to be wages (the box 12 "V" > amount) adds to your basis. On Schedule D you'll wind up with a short-term > loss equal to the fees. the W2 figure is based on the closing stock price on the day of the transaction, whereas the sales price on the 1099 is based on whatever price the trade was actually made at, intraday. Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Bonnie Forman <bons77[at]pacbell.net> wrote: - quote - > In 2008 I exercised some of my company stock options I was given in
No, it won't be counted twice.> 2002. It was a Cashless transaction. My companies stock options are > handled through Merril Lynch. > Shortly after the transaction I received some paperwork showing the > details of the transaction, including taxes and fees that were withheld. > This income and tax withholding is included on the W2 form I received > from my company. (There is a V in box 12c, and I've done the math to > confirm it was included.) > I am using Turbotax to do my taxes. > Since the income was already added and taxes were withheld, do I still > have to enter it in Turbotax (which I believe will include a Schedule > D)? Won't it then add it to my income again? - quote - > Also, can I deduct the Merrill Lynch fees and commissions?
You will also receive a 1099. (They are not due until Feb 15of this year so you may not have seen it yet.) On Schedule D, you need to enter the "cost or other basis" and the "sales price". The "cost or other basis" will be the sum of the the option price that you paid when you exercised and the income reported on the W2. The "sales price" will be the amount you received from the sale, reported on the 1099, and this amount should be net of Merrill's commissions and fees. The resulting gain will be close to, but not exactly zero. The W2 income is also reported on 1040 in the usual way for wage income. Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Bonnie Forman" wrote: - quote - > In 2008 I exercised some of my company stock options I was given in
Yes you do, and no, it won't. The amount deemed to be wages (the box 12 "V"> 2002. It was a Cashless transaction. My companies stock options are > handled through Merril Lynch. > Shortly after the transaction I received some paperwork showing the > details of the transaction, including taxes and fees that were withheld. > This income and tax withholding is included on the W2 form I received > from my company. (There is a V in box 12c, and I've done the math to > confirm it was included.) > I am using Turbotax to do my taxes. > Since the income was already added and taxes were withheld, do I still > have to enter it in Turbotax (which I believe will include a Schedule > D)? Won't it then add it to my income again? amount) adds to your basis. On Schedule D you'll wind up with a short-term loss equal to the fees. Don't try to do this through the interview. Use Forms mode to directly enter the stock sale to a 1099-B input screen. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Hello - In 2008 I exercised some of my company stock options I was given in 2002. It was a Cashless transaction. My companies stock options are handled through Merril Lynch. Shortly after the transaction I received some paperwork showing the details of the transaction, including taxes and fees that were withheld. This income and tax withholding is included on the W2 form I received from my company. (There is a V in box 12c, and I've done the math to confirm it was included.) I am using Turbotax to do my taxes. Since the income was already added and taxes were withheld, do I still have to enter it in Turbotax (which I believe will include a Schedule D)? Won't it then add it to my income again? Also, can I deduct the Merrill Lynch fees and commissions? TIA Bonnie -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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