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| "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote - quote - > Then suppose my corporation is the small business putting her to work? > (Forget for a moment she says she will never work for me.) > Cost to my corporation will be her salary plus another 7.65%, plus SUTA > and FUTA (combined 1.6%), just so she can get a credit for her 6.2% up t0 > $500? Don't need to do any more math. Yeah, but think of all the "good" help you'll get. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote
Then suppose my corporation is the small business putting her to work?> > adwagner[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > > > From the article: > > > > > "“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than > > > 95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the > > > bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working > > > individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be > > > calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for > > > taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 > > > for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this > > > benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is > > > withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their > > > tax returns." > > > > > Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of > > > 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. > > > Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to > > > offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase > > > out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they > > > want it, but it sure seems odd to me. > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > It's capped not at 1000, but at 500$. Now, my problem will be to explain > > to my (retired and not working) wife why she won't get any money. > "I love the smell of a tax credit in the morning." > A line never used by Francis Ford Coppola in any movie as far as I can tell. > You see Harlan, there's time to get her a job so she has some earned income > in each of the years at issue. > You'd have to run the numbers to see if it's doable, but you might have a > small business owner putting dear ol' mom and dad on payroll for the tax > credits. > "Oh the horrors." > Wait, that line was used. (Forget for a moment she says she will never work for me.) Cost to my corporation will be her salary plus another 7.65%, plus SUTA and FUTA (combined 1.6%), just so she can get a credit for her 6.2% up t0 $500? Don't need to do any more math. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote - quote - > adwagner[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > > From the article: > > > "“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than > > 95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the > > bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working > > individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be > > calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for > > taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 > > for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this > > benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is > > withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their > > tax returns." > > > Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of > > 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. > > Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to > > offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase > > out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they > > want it, but it sure seems odd to me. > > > Best wishes. > > It's capped not at 1000, but at 500$. Now, my problem will be to explain > to my (retired and not working) wife why she won't get any money. "I love the smell of a tax credit in the morning." A line never used by Francis Ford Coppola in any movie as far as I can tell. You see Harlan, there's time to get her a job so she has some earned income in each of the years at issue. You'd have to run the numbers to see if it's doable, but you might have a small business owner putting dear ol' mom and dad on payroll for the tax credits. "Oh the horrors." Wait, that line was used. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Reggie wrote: - quote - > It helps to obfuscate the nature of all this "tax cut" stuff. it is really
Well.........I for one am glad I'm paying taxes.> welfare in disguise. > I suppose, also, that the phase out means that with enough income, you don't > even get the $1,000. With enough income, you just get to pay taxes, not get > any of the tax relief. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| adwagner[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > > From the article:
explain to my (retired and not working) wife why she won't get any money.> "“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than > 95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the > bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working > individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be > calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for > taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 > for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this > benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is > withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their > tax returns." > Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of > 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. > Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to > offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase > out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they > want it, but it sure seems odd to me. > Best wishes. It's capped not at 1000, but at 500$. Now, my problem will be to ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| <adwagner[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:092b21ad-eb9a-468b-88c6-5dd0d105d18d[at]r37g2000prr.googlegroups.com... - quote - > > From the article: > "“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than > 95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the > bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working > individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be > calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for > taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 > for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this > benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is > withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their > tax returns." > Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of > 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. > Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to > offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase > out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they > want it, but it sure seems odd to me. It helps to obfuscate the nature of all this "tax cut" stuff. it is really welfare in disguise. I suppose, also, that the phase out means that with enough income, you don't even get the $1,000. With enough income, you just get to pay taxes, not get any of the tax relief. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| adwagner[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > > From the article:
or $500. The 6.2% represents the rate of FICA tax. The amount> "“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than > 95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the > bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working > individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be > calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for > taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 > for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this > benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is > withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their > tax returns." > Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of > 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. > Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to > offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase > out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they > want it, but it sure seems odd to me. > Best wishes. It doesn't say you get 6.2%. It says you get the lesser of 6.2% is a refundable tax credit. And... like most tax credits, it phases out if your income gets too high. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > From the article:
"“Making Work Pay” tax credit. The bill would cut taxes for more than95% of working families in the United States. For 2009 and 2010, the bill would provide a refundable tax credit of up to $500 for working individuals and $1,000 for working families. This tax credit would be calculated at a rate of 6.2% of earned income, and would phase out for taxpayers with adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000 ($150,000 for married couples filing jointly). Taxpayers can receive this benefit through a reduction in the amount of income tax that is withheld from their paychecks, or through claiming the credit on their tax returns." Maybe I am missing something here. It says you get a tax credit of 6.2%. If you earn exactly $150,000, that is over $9,000 in credit. Yet the amount is apparently capped at $1000. If they are going to offer a rate of 6.2% and cap the credit at $1000, why does the phase out begin at $150,000 of earned income? Maybe that is the way they want it, but it sure seems odd to me. Best wishes. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Alan" <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:YP7gl.19767$ZP4.7575[at]nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com... - quote - > For those of you even care about tax legislation that is not final... the
all that money, and nothing for me!> first link is the summary from Ways & Means and the second link is the > text. See Division B, Tax Provisions in the text of HR 1. > http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/110/taxsum.pdf > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1: -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| For those of you even care about tax legislation that is not final... the first link is the summary from Ways & Means and the second link is the text. See Division B, Tax Provisions in the text of HR 1. http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/110/taxsum.pdf http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1: -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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