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Old 01-25-2009, 01:06 PM
gindie
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Default Re: Reporting Excess Roth IRA Contribution on 1040

On Jan 24, 8:58*pm, Mark Bole <ma...[at]pacbell.net> wrote:

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> To the OP: *just to confirm, by "excess", you mean contributions that
> are not allowed due to your AGI being too high for your filing status?


Yes. Significant unexpected distribution from Traditional IRA caused
us to blow right past the Roth IRA limits.

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Old 01-25-2009, 12:58 AM
Mark Bole
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Default Re: Reporting Excess Roth IRA Contribution on 1040

Phil Marti wrote:
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> "gindie" wrote:
> > I will be withdrawing excess 2008 Roth IRA contributions (not a total
> > liquidation). These contributions resulted in a loss. Where, if
> > anywhere, do I account for this transaction on my 1040?

> You report the distribution on line 15 of your 2008 1040, not your 2009
> return as the eariler response suggested. Line 15a is the amount returned,
> line 15b is zero, and you attach an explanation that this is a return of an
> excess 2008 contribution minus negative earnings.
> You'll get a 1099-R a year from now showing the distribution. It will be
> coded to show that it's something that should have been reported on your
> 2008 return. You do nothing with it on your 2009 return.
> See page 4 of the instructions for Form 8606.


Not sure why (or if) you think the other thread "Recharacterization of
stock transfer to Roth from Trad IRA" is in essence any different from
this...? In the former case you recommend trying to get the custodian
to tweak the 1099-R, in this case you (correctly) state to attach an
explanation.

To the OP: just to confirm, by "excess", you mean contributions that
are not allowed due to your AGI being too high for your filing status?

-Mark Bole

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Old 01-24-2009, 03:53 AM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Reporting Excess Roth IRA Contribution on 1040

"gindie" wrote:

- quote -

> I will be withdrawing excess 2008 Roth IRA contributions (not a total
> liquidation). These contributions resulted in a loss. Where, if
> anywhere, do I account for this transaction on my 1040?


You report the distribution on line 15 of your 2008 1040, not your 2009
return as the eariler response suggested. Line 15a is the amount returned,
line 15b is zero, and you attach an explanation that this is a return of an
excess 2008 contribution minus negative earnings.

You'll get a 1099-R a year from now showing the distribution. It will be
coded to show that it's something that should have been reported on your
2008 return. You do nothing with it on your 2009 return.

See page 4 of the instructions for Form 8606.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 01-24-2009, 02:05 AM
Alan
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Default Re: Reporting Excess Roth IRA Contribution on 1040

gindie wrote:
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> I will be withdrawing excess 2008 Roth IRA contributions (not a total
> liquidation). These contributions resulted in a loss. Where, if
> anywhere, do I account for this transaction on my 1040? Also, I
> understand that I won't get a 1099-R for this until next year, what do
> I do with that when I get it?

See page 4 of the Form 8606 instructions on how you will report
the distribution on your 2009 tax return.

You don't have a reportable loss as long as you have any Roth
account still in existence.

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Old 01-24-2009, 01:01 AM
gindie
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Default Reporting Excess Roth IRA Contribution on 1040

I will be withdrawing excess 2008 Roth IRA contributions (not a total
liquidation). These contributions resulted in a loss. Where, if
anywhere, do I account for this transaction on my 1040? Also, I
understand that I won't get a 1099-R for this until next year, what do
I do with that when I get it?

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