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Old 01-20-2009, 09:41 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"My interest" <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote
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> What's the tax implication when I withdraw from my 401K at retirement?
> For example, assuming a foreign stock paid $100 dividend and the
> foreign government withheld $10 tax. If this stock is owned in my
> regular investment account, I will pay US tax on $100 then get credit
> for $10 foreign tax paid. But what will happen if this foreign stock
> is held in 401K? Will the 401K brokerage be required track all such
> details? (If so, I would image the information is very messy and
> almost impossible to verify when you retire)







Luckily you get the best of the best. Since you are taxed only on the
distributions from the 401K, you get a full deduction for the foreign taxes
paid - sorta - because you'll never include in your income the gross
earnings of the 401K.

Real simply,
401K contributions = $5,000
Earnings = $500
Less foreign taxes
paid out - 25
--------- Full distribution = $ 5475

Taxable income = $ 5475

You effectively get an above-the-line deduction.





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Old 01-20-2009, 08:56 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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My interest wrote:
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> What's the tax implication when I withdraw from my 401K at retirement?
> For example, assuming a foreign stock paid $100 dividend and the
> foreign government withheld $10 tax. If this stock is owned in my
> regular investment account, I will pay US tax on $100 then get credit
> for $10 foreign tax paid. But what will happen if this foreign stock
> is held in 401K? Will the 401K brokerage be required track all such
> details? (If so, I would image the information is very messy and
> almost impossible to verify when you retire)

What the other two posters have mentioned is what I call the Las Vegas
Law of Taxes: "What happens in the 401k, stays in the 401k."

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-20-2009, 07:36 PM
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In misc.taxes.moderated, My interest wrote:

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> What's the tax implication when I withdraw from my 401K at retirement?
> For example, assuming a foreign stock paid $100 dividend and the
> foreign government withheld $10 tax. If this stock is owned in my
> regular investment account, I will pay US tax on $100 then get credit
> for $10 foreign tax paid. But what will happen if this foreign stock
> is held in 401K? Will the 401K brokerage be required track all such
> details? (If so, I would image the information is very messy and
> almost impossible to verify when you retire)


The good news is that it is not messy. The bad news is that the
foreign tax paid by your IRA or 401k is not deductible nor does it
give you any credit.

It is best to put that kind of investment in your non-tax-deferred
account, if the tax total is substantial.

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Old 01-20-2009, 07:34 PM
Steve Pope
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My interest <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> What's the tax implication when I withdraw from my 401K at retirement?

> For example, assuming a foreign stock paid $100 dividend and the
> foreign government withheld $10 tax. If this stock is owned in my
> regular investment account, I will pay US tax on $100 then get credit
> for $10 foreign tax paid. But what will happen if this foreign stock
> is held in 401K? Will the 401K brokerage be required track all such
> details? (If so, I would image the information is very messy and
> almost impossible to verify when you retire)


There is no benefit, so far as I know. Similarly, you can
hold tax-free munis, or state-tax-free Treasuries, in your 401(k)
but you can never capture the tax free aspects. Or make any
use of lower capital gains rates within the 401(k), etc.

Steve

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Old 01-20-2009, 06:30 PM
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Default Foreign tax paid on stock held in 401k account

What's the tax implication when I withdraw from my 401K at retirement?

For example, assuming a foreign stock paid $100 dividend and the
foreign government withheld $10 tax. If this stock is owned in my
regular investment account, I will pay US tax on $100 then get credit
for $10 foreign tax paid. But what will happen if this foreign stock
is held in 401K? Will the 401K brokerage be required track all such
details? (If so, I would image the information is very messy and
almost impossible to verify when you retire)

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