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| Russ in San Diego <russgoog[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > On Jan 6, 11:16*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
[Parallel Keogh and Simple-IRA plans]- quote - > > You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan
Yes, that occured to me also when reading OP's post. I would> > specialist on this one. * > > The simplest possibility is that you have to file form > > 5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan > > year. > There might also be an issue if your Keogh included a Profit Sharing > plan. If you had profits during any of the years in which you failed > to contribute, you may have been required to make contributions to the > PSP at the rate declared when you established the plan. be especially worried if the plans covered the same business activity, less so if they covered entirely different businesses. - quote - > I'm also not a tax pro -- but I'm trying to figure out how to move MY
That's the smart thing to do at the moment, in my opinion.> Keogh over to my individual 401k. Until I get that totally nailed > down, I'm putting the "employee contribution" into my 401k and the > profit sharing/money purchase into the Keogh. But what you ideally should have done is re-stated the Keogh as a solo 401(k). Providers of these master plans (i.e. brokerages) have a routine path for doing this. In this scenario the "plan" stays the same (same EIN and sequence number) but the plan documents change. Having not done this, you may now have to merge the plans. Again a job for an expert. Steve (not a tax professional) -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Jan 6, 11:16*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote: - quote - > <irfanball...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
There might also be an issue if your Keogh included a Profit Sharing> > Federal Tax question > > *************************************** > > In 2008, I decided to consolidate *my retirement accounts. > > I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA > > in 2008. Both accounts *are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my > > Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in > > 2008. > > Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account? > > If so, what forms should I use ? > > Would you please let me know. > You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan > specialist on this one. * > The simplest possibility is that you have to file form > 5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan > year. *Starting this year, this form must be electronically > filed and you will probably need a tax person to do this > for you even if they are doing nothing else. > 5500-EZ is not filed with the IRS, but with the EBSA. > The above is a bare minimum of information. *You really > need advice from a specialist, because small mistakes in dealing > with qualified plans can become very expensive. > Steve (not a tax professional) plan. If you had profits during any of the years in which you failed to contribute, you may have been required to make contributions to the PSP at the rate declared when you established the plan. I'm also not a tax pro -- but I'm trying to figure out how to move MY Keogh over to my individual 401k. Until I get that totally nailed down, I'm putting the "employee contribution" into my 401k and the profit sharing/money purchase into the Keogh. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| <irfanballard[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Federal Tax question
You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan> *************************************** > In 2008, I decided to consolidate my retirement accounts. > I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA > in 2008. Both accounts are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my > Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in > 2008. > Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account? > If so, what forms should I use ? > Would you please let me know. specialist on this one. The simplest possibility is that you have to file form 5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan year. Starting this year, this form must be electronically filed and you will probably need a tax person to do this for you even if they are doing nothing else. 5500-EZ is not filed with the IRS, but with the EBSA. The above is a bare minimum of information. You really need advice from a specialist, because small mistakes in dealing with qualified plans can become very expensive. Steve (not a tax professional) -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Federal Tax question *************************************** In 2008, I decided to consolidate my retirement accounts. I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA in 2008. Both accounts are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in 2008. Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account? If so, what forms should I use ? Would you please let me know. Thanks, Irfan Ballard -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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