Go Back   CDN Business Directory > Main Category > Taxes

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #2  
Old 01-07-2009, 05:57 PM
Steve Pope
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Federal Tax question

Russ in San Diego <russgoog[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> On Jan 6, 11:16*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:

[Parallel Keogh and Simple-IRA plans]

- quote -

> > You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan
> > specialist on this one. *


> > The simplest possibility is that you have to file form
> > 5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan
> > year.


> There might also be an issue if your Keogh included a Profit Sharing
> plan. If you had profits during any of the years in which you failed
> to contribute, you may have been required to make contributions to the
> PSP at the rate declared when you established the plan.


Yes, that occured to me also when reading OP's post. I would
be especially worried if the plans covered the same business
activity, less so if they covered entirely different businesses.

- quote -

> I'm also not a tax pro -- but I'm trying to figure out how to move MY
> Keogh over to my individual 401k. Until I get that totally nailed
> down, I'm putting the "employee contribution" into my 401k and the
> profit sharing/money purchase into the Keogh.


That's the smart thing to do at the moment, in my opinion.

But what you ideally should have done is re-stated the Keogh as
a solo 401(k). Providers of these master plans (i.e. brokerages)
have a routine path for doing this. In this scenario the "plan"
stays the same (same EIN and sequence number) but the plan
documents change. Having not done this, you may now have to merge
the plans. Again a job for an expert.


Steve (not a tax professional)

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #1  
Old 01-07-2009, 04:21 PM
Russ in San Diego
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Federal Tax question

On Jan 6, 11:16*pm, spop...[at]speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
- quote -

> <irfanball...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > Federal Tax question
> > ***************************************
> > In 2008, I decided to consolidate *my retirement accounts.
> > I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA
> > in 2008. Both accounts *are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my
> > Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in
> > 2008.
> > Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account?
> > If so, what forms should I use ?
> > Would you please let me know.

> You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan
> specialist on this one. *
> The simplest possibility is that you have to file form
> 5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan
> year. *Starting this year, this form must be electronically
> filed and you will probably need a tax person to do this
> for you even if they are doing nothing else.
> 5500-EZ is not filed with the IRS, but with the EBSA.
> The above is a bare minimum of information. *You really
> need advice from a specialist, because small mistakes in dealing
> with qualified plans can become very expensive.
> Steve (not a tax professional)


There might also be an issue if your Keogh included a Profit Sharing
plan. If you had profits during any of the years in which you failed
to contribute, you may have been required to make contributions to the
PSP at the rate declared when you established the plan.

I'm also not a tax pro -- but I'm trying to figure out how to move MY
Keogh over to my individual 401k. Until I get that totally nailed
down, I'm putting the "employee contribution" into my 401k and the
profit sharing/money purchase into the Keogh.

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 
Old 01-07-2009, 06:16 AM
Steve Pope
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Federal Tax question

<irfanballard[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> Federal Tax question
> ***************************************


> In 2008, I decided to consolidate my retirement accounts.


> I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA
> in 2008. Both accounts are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my
> Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in
> 2008.


> Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account?
> If so, what forms should I use ?


> Would you please let me know.


You almost certainly want to consult with a retirement plan
specialist on this one.

The simplest possibility is that you have to file form
5500-EZ for the Keogh stating that 2008 its the final plan
year. Starting this year, this form must be electronically
filed and you will probably need a tax person to do this
for you even if they are doing nothing else.

5500-EZ is not filed with the IRS, but with the EBSA.

The above is a bare minimum of information. You really
need advice from a specialist, because small mistakes in dealing
with qualified plans can become very expensive.

Steve (not a tax professional)

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #-1  
Old 01-07-2009, 03:28 AM
irfanballard@gmail.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Federal Tax question

Federal Tax question
***************************************

In 2008, I decided to consolidate my retirement accounts.

I transferred all my mutual funds from my Keogh Account to my SEP IRA
in 2008. Both accounts are at Schwab. I have not contributed to my
Keogh account for quite a few years. I did contribute to my SEP IRA in
2008.

Do I need to inform the IRS re: the closure of the Keogh account?
If so, what forms should I use ?

Would you please let me know.

Thanks,

Irfan Ballard

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 

Tags
federal, question, tax
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Question About Federal Tax Extensions
BRH: An acquaintance of mine filed for a Federal tax extension in April (He's due a refund), and his accountant has still not gotten around to filing...
Financial Planning 4 07-28-2006 04:35 PM
Federal Income Tax Question
Suzie-Q: I'm in central Texas, although I doubt that will make a difference. A friend of mine was supposed to have gotten a $5,000 tax refund. Instead she...
Taxes 7 02-23-2006 02:52 AM
Federal income tax withheld question
JBoDEAN: Can someone explain to me, why someone who has over $3000.00 dollars on a w2 for federal income tax withheld, would only get back a little over...
Taxes 15 01-28-2004 10:34 PM



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05 PM.