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Old 12-20-2008, 06:16 PM
D.F. Manno
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Default Re: Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

In article <%gj2l.2534$7I6.265[at]nwrddc01.gnilink.net> ,
"Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:

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> D.F. Manno wrote:
> > I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who
> > qualifies for the payment but did not file this year.

> I've not heard of anyone getting both SS and SSI benefits. If
> it's only SSI, there's no credit available. If there's at
> least $3,000 in SS benefits, there is.


If the amount of SS benefits you qualify for is less than the SSI
minimum, the SSA adds enough SSI benefits to reach the minimum.
The person in question has never worked and draws SS benefits as
a survivor on her father's account.

The SSI minimum monthly benefit is $623. So it is possible to
receive $3,000 in SS benefits in a year and still receive SSI.

D.F. Manno

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Old 12-18-2008, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

Phil Marti wrote:
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> "D.F. Manno" wrote:
> > I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who qualifies
> > for the payment but did not file this year.

> I've not heard of anyone getting both SS and SSI benefits. If it's only
> SSI, there's no credit available. If there's at least $3,000 in SS
> benefits, there is.


I had one elderly married couple last year with just that -- both
legally blind, one in a wheelchair. They weren't required to file, and
didn't have any 1099-SSA forms with them, but fortunately monthly bank
statements clearly showed the direct deposit amounts for both SS and
SSI, so I was able to complete a stimulus-payment-only return for them.

-Mark Bole

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Old 12-18-2008, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

Phil Marti wrote:
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> "D.F. Manno" wrote:
> > I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who qualifies
> > for the payment but did not file this year.

> I've not heard of anyone getting both SS and SSI benefits. If it's only
> SSI, there's no credit available. If there's at least $3,000 in SS
> benefits, there is.

SSDI can be supplemented with SSI if you meet the SSI income and
asset requirements.

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Old 12-18-2008, 02:17 AM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

"D.F. Manno" wrote:

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> I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who qualifies
> for the payment but did not file this year.


I've not heard of anyone getting both SS and SSI benefits. If it's only
SSI, there's no credit available. If there's at least $3,000 in SS
benefits, there is.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 12-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

In article <dommanno-6D1ACF.17002117122008[at]feeder.motzarella.org> ,
D.F. Manno <dommanno[at]aim.com> wrote:
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> It's well past the Oct. 15 deadline to file a 2007 tax return and
> receive a stimulus payment this year. IRS says that those who
> have not filed by that date can claim a credit for the payment on
> the 2008 returns. Is that a refundable credit?


If taxpayer received nothing based on 2007 income, then taxpayer
can file for 2008 and still receive a refundable credit.


If there's at least $3000 of qualifying income, which includes
social security benefits, but does not include supplemental
security income (ssi).



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> I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who qualifies
> for the payment but did not file this year. He neither has nor
> expects to have any other income this year. Is there any benefit
> in filing the return next year for him?



Yes. He should file.
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Old 12-17-2008, 10:50 PM
D.F. Manno
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Default Claiming stimulus payment on 2008 return?

It's well past the Oct. 15 deadline to file a 2007 tax return and
receive a stimulus payment this year. IRS says that those who
have not filed by that date can claim a credit for the payment on
the 2008 returns. Is that a refundable credit?

I ask on behalf of a Social Security/SSI recipient who qualifies
for the payment but did not file this year. He neither has nor
expects to have any other income this year. Is there any benefit
in filing the return next year for him?

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