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Old 12-09-2008, 04:22 AM
D. Stussy
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Default Re: 1099 for Landlord?

"Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> scott s. wrote:
> > Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in
> > news:6n%_k.5269$UI2.2660[at]bignews6.bellsouth.net:
> > > > This is usual practice of course, since real estate agents collects
> > > for the client and remits net rentals after deductions for agreed
> > > upon expenses, e.g. commission and repairs. Gross rentals are
> > > always thus reported correctly.
> > > > > The problem I've had is the agent does accrual accounting and I

> > do cash. I've had some discussion as to "constructive receipt"
> > but I've been showing amounts as received by me rather than accrued
> > by the agent.
> > Sleep well tonight and don't worry. So your reporting on the cash basis

> might differ by, say, two months rental from agent's reporting. IF IRS
> ever questions the mismatch, simply explain the situation. make sure
> to keep good records, though.


1099's are supposed to report cash basis accounting, so if there's a
difference, it's your manager's fault.

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Old 12-09-2008, 01:31 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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scott s. wrote:
- quote -

> Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:6n%_k.5269$UI2.2660[at]bignews6.bellsouth.net:
> > This is usual practice of course, since real estate agents collects
> > for the client and remits net rentals after deductions for agreed
> > upon expenses, e.g. commission and repairs. Gross rentals are
> > always thus reported correctly.
> > The problem I've had is the agent does accrual accounting and I

> do cash. I've had some discussion as to "constructive receipt"
> but I've been showing amounts as received by me rather than accrued
> by the agent.

Sleep well tonight and don't worry. So your reporting on the cash basis
might differ by, say, two months rental from agent's reporting. IF IRS
ever questions the mismatch, simply explain the situation. make sure
to keep good records, though.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-08-2008, 11:04 PM
scott s.
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Default Re: 1099 for Landlord?

Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:6n%_k.5269$UI2.2660[at]bignews6.bellsouth.net:

- quote -

> This is usual practice of course, since real estate agents collects
> for the client and remits net rentals after deductions for agreed
> upon expenses, e.g. commission and repairs. Gross rentals are
> always thus reported correctly.


The problem I've had is the agent does accrual accounting and I
do cash. I've had some discussion as to "constructive receipt"
but I've been showing amounts as received by me rather than accrued
by the agent.

scott s.
...

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Old 12-08-2008, 08:51 PM
D. Stussy
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"Harlan Lunsford" <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> D. Stussy wrote:
> > "Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message
> > news:ghh184$dd5$3[at]reader1.panix.com...
> > > In article <fiP_k.1748$jZ1.421[at]flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> ,
> > > krasi <krasi[at]damyanov.com> wrote:
> > > > I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it.

> > My
> > > > real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending

a
> > 1099
> > > > for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so,

is
> > the
> > > > 1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by

my
> > > > agent ob my behalf?
> > > > > If the rental agent sends out a 1099-rents with gross rental, you
> > > deduct agent's fee on your schedule E.
> > > And send them a 1099-misc for the agent's fee (unless rent reported is

> > NET). ;-)

> Sorry, but 1099-misc would be inappropriate, since it is not in
> connection with fee payer's trade or business.


Granted that rental properties are generally considered section 212
activities, but in practice, I have seen people issue 1099-MISCs listing
NEC to their rental management companies before, especially when they get
1099-MISCs listing GROSS rents.

- quote -

> > The 1099 listing rents is appropriate ONLY if the agent deposits gross
> > rents into his bank account and disburses it to you via the agent's

check.
> > Note that these disbursements may already be less the fee - and if the

1099
> > matches, you should have no fee deduction for the NET rent reported.
> > However, if you receive the tenants checks from the agent and

cash/deposit
> > them yourself, the 1099 is INAPPROPRIATE.
> > This is usual practice of course, since real estate agents collects for

> the client and remits net rentals after deductions for agreed upon
> expenses, e.g. commission and repairs. Gross rentals are always thus
> reported correctly.


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Old 12-08-2008, 01:13 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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D. Stussy wrote:
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> "Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message
> news:ghh184$dd5$3[at]reader1.panix.com...
> > In article <fiP_k.1748$jZ1.421[at]flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> ,
> > krasi <krasi[at]damyanov.com> wrote:
> > > I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it.

> My
> > > real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending a

> 1099
> > > for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so, is

> the
> > > 1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by my
> > > agent ob my behalf?
> > > If the rental agent sends out a 1099-rents with gross rental, you

> > deduct agent's fee on your schedule E.

> And send them a 1099-misc for the agent's fee (unless rent reported is
> NET). ;-)


Sorry, but 1099-misc would be inappropriate, since it is not in
connection with fee payer's trade or business.
- quote -

> The 1099 listing rents is appropriate ONLY if the agent deposits gross
> rents into his bank account and disburses it to you via the agent's check.
> Note that these disbursements may already be less the fee - and if the 1099
> matches, you should have no fee deduction for the NET rent reported.
> However, if you receive the tenants checks from the agent and cash/deposit
> them yourself, the 1099 is INAPPROPRIATE.

This is usual practice of course, since real estate agents collects for
the client and remits net rentals after deductions for agreed upon
expenses, e.g. commission and repairs. Gross rentals are always thus
reported correctly.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-07-2008, 10:10 PM
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"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <fiP_k.1748$jZ1.421[at]flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> ,
> krasi <krasi[at]damyanov.com> wrote:
> > I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it.

My
> > real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending a

1099
> > for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so, is

the
> > 1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by my
> > agent ob my behalf?

> If the rental agent sends out a 1099-rents with gross rental, you
> deduct agent's fee on your schedule E.


And send them a 1099-misc for the agent's fee (unless rent reported is
NET). ;-)

The 1099 listing rents is appropriate ONLY if the agent deposits gross
rents into his bank account and disburses it to you via the agent's check.
Note that these disbursements may already be less the fee - and if the 1099
matches, you should have no fee deduction for the NET rent reported.
However, if you receive the tenants checks from the agent and cash/deposit
them yourself, the 1099 is INAPPROPRIATE.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 1099 for Landlord?

"krasi" wrote:

- quote -

> I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it. My
> real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending a 1099
> for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so, is the
> 1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by my
> agent ob my behalf?


With or without a 1099 you report gross rents on Schedule E and deduct all
expenses, including those paid for you by your agent.

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Old 12-07-2008, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: 1099 for Landlord?

In article <fiP_k.1748$jZ1.421[at]flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> ,
krasi <krasi[at]damyanov.com> wrote:
- quote -

> I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it. My
> real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending a 1099
> for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so, is the
> 1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by my
> agent ob my behalf?



If the rental agent sends out a 1099-rents with gross rental, you
deduct agent's fee on your schedule E.
--


ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 12-07-2008, 03:39 PM
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Default 1099 for Landlord?

I own a single family home which is rented since I could not sell it. My
real estate agent managing the property said that he will be sending a 1099
for the rental income? Do I get a 1099 for the rental income? If so, is the
1099 income gross rental income and I ahve to deduct expenses paid by my
agent ob my behalf?

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