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Old 11-28-2008, 04:21 AM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: Mutual fund average basis rule - when can you revert to cost basis (actual cost of each share)?

In article <ggn8nu$hvh$1[at]aioe.org> , Mark Freeland <nNeEwTs[at]nyc.rr.com> wrote:
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> According to Pub 564, once one selects an average basis method for a
> particular fund, one must continue using that method until the IRS gives its
> approval to change it.




Almost. Once you select averaging to determine basis, you ocntinue with
averaging. However, you are not frozen into Type I or Type II and can
switch, say, from Type II to Type I





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> Most everyone believes that if one liquidates all
> positions in a given fund (possibly in multiple accounts), then one can
> start over with whatever method one chooses when one starts a new investment
> in that fund.
> 1. Any citation for that rule? A quick search, at least, didn't turn up a
> source.





No cite, just trying to conform to the code. If you are out of that
fund with no wash sale involvement, that is you did not create a wash
sale through purchase of replacement shares for stock sold at a loss, you
should be OK. If those replacement shares are in an IRA, there is
no relief available to you, so you should be able to purchase other shares
of the fund anytime and switch from averaging to specific identification
(and FIFO is the default method of specific identification) unless the
replacement shares in a regular accunt would create a wash sale.



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> 2. Does one have to liquidate IRA accounts as well? One might think not,




No. Nor will you get wash sale relief.




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> but early this year the IRS put out a Revenue Ruling on wash sales, that
> says that the wash sale rule applies (admittedly, a different rule) even if
> one sells in a taxable account and repurchases in an IRA. Revenue Ruling
> 2008-5. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-08-05.pdf So I don't have any
> idea about the interplay between IRAs and taxable accounts in the context of
> average basis accounting.


The ruling affirmed that selling at a loss in a regular account
and repurchase within +/- 30 days in an IRA creates a wash sale. I would
not worry about that speific wash sale preventing you from changing
the method of basis calculation since that wash sale cannot be fixed.
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Old 11-28-2008, 12:23 AM
Mark Freeland
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Default Mutual fund average basis rule - when can you revert to cost basis (actual cost of each share)?

According to Pub 564, once one selects an average basis method for a
particular fund, one must continue using that method until the IRS gives its
approval to change it. Most everyone believes that if one liquidates all
positions in a given fund (possibly in multiple accounts), then one can
start over with whatever method one chooses when one starts a new investment
in that fund.

1. Any citation for that rule? A quick search, at least, didn't turn up a
source.

2. Does one have to liquidate IRA accounts as well? One might think not,
but early this year the IRS put out a Revenue Ruling on wash sales, that
says that the wash sale rule applies (admittedly, a different rule) even if
one sells in a taxable account and repurchases in an IRA. Revenue Ruling
2008-5. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-08-05.pdf So I don't have any
idea about the interplay between IRAs and taxable accounts in the context of
average basis accounting.

Mark Freeland
nNeEwTs[at]nyc.rr.com

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