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Old 11-22-2008, 11:30 PM
Mark Bole
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Default Re: Beware free Adobe Reader 9.0

Alan wrote:
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> removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Nov 21, 9:19 pm, jhhtexas <jhhte...[at]ieee.org> wrote:
> > > > Adobe Reader 9.0 is not a good upgrade if you ever download forms from
> > > the IRS website. The IRS has granted these forms access rights which
> > > means you can fill them in, print and save them. Not so with Adobe
> > > Reader 9.0 It will no longer allow you to save forms with IRS document
> > > rights. Not good.
> > > What is "IRS document rights"?

> > Adobe no longer supports document rights in Reader V9. Therefore, you

> can't save a file in which you entered data. The IRS and state tax
> authorities will have to change the files in order to make them readily
> available for saving in Adobe Reader 9. The only other solution is to
> either have a previous version of Adobe Reader on your computer that
> allows you to save the file or use any one of a number of other free PDf
> readers that have enabled the functionality.


There are document rights in V9, but using a different method. "Old"
document rights apparently are not forward compatible, while I suspect
"new" document rights are not backward compatible. This is probably one
of the reasons why Adobe Corp. had good Q3 financial results, they've
learned how to apply the typical software vendor technique of forcing
you (someone) to buy upgrades every year or two whether you need them or
not. I suppose one of the reasons the government standardized on PDF
format was because "there's a free reader", but I'm sure the contract
didn't guarantee forward compatibility for an unlimited time.

I have yet to find a compelling reason to upgrade from Adobe Reader v.7,
and as a taxpayer I hope the IRS doesn't squander our dollars buying new
software and upgrading documents that are perfectly usable in their
current form, as long as you ignore the desires of Adobe Corp. The
Foxit product looks good, I might give that a try as well.

-Mark Bole

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Old 11-22-2008, 10:41 PM
paultry
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Default Re: Beware free Adobe Reader 9.0

Alan wrote:
The only other solution is to
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> either have a previous version of Adobe Reader on your computer that
> allows you to save the file or use any one of a number of other free PDf
> readers that have enabled the functionality.


CutePDF Writer (freeware)
http://www.cutepdf.com/Products/CutePDF/writer.asp
is an easy work-around to save, but not reedit, filled-in
forms from Adobe Reader 9.

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Old 11-22-2008, 06:43 PM
Alan
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Default Re: Beware free Adobe Reader 9.0

removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com wrote:
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> On Nov 21, 9:19 pm, jhhtexas <jhhte...[at]ieee.org> wrote:
> > Adobe Reader 9.0 is not a good upgrade if you ever download forms from
> > the IRS website. The IRS has granted these forms access rights which
> > means you can fill them in, print and save them. Not so with Adobe
> > Reader 9.0 It will no longer allow you to save forms with IRS document
> > rights. Not good.

> What is "IRS document rights"?

Adobe no longer supports document rights in Reader V9. Therefore,
you can't save a file in which you entered data. The IRS and
state tax authorities will have to change the files in order to
make them readily available for saving in Adobe Reader 9. The
only other solution is to either have a previous version of Adobe
Reader on your computer that allows you to save the file or use
any one of a number of other free PDf readers that have enabled
the functionality. Personally, I use the Foxit Reader for a
variety of reasons. It is smaller and faster than the Adobe
Reader; there are no issues with document rights; and I like that
it uses tabs.
http://foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php

Here is what Adobe says about document rights:

Work with rights-enabled PDF documents

You can use Adobe Document Server for Reader Extensions to create
a rights-enabled PDF file that allows Adobe Reader users to
comment on, save, and add digital signatures to PDF forms. For
more information about Adobe Document Server for Reader
Extensions, visit the Adobe website at
www.adobe.com/products/server/readerextensions/.

When you open a rights-enabled PDF document in Adobe Reader, you
can do one or more of the following:

* Create digital signatures in a PDF document.
* Add and view comments in the form of highlights, sticky
notes, free text annotations, graphic and text markup tools, and
sound or movie files.
* Import and export comments and form data.
* Save edited PDF documents to a hard disk.

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Old 11-22-2008, 05:58 PM
removeps-groups@yahoo.com
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Default Re: Beware free Adobe Reader 9.0

On Nov 21, 9:19 pm, jhhtexas <jhhte...[at]ieee.org> wrote:

- quote -

> Adobe Reader 9.0 is not a good upgrade if you ever download forms from
> the IRS website. The IRS has granted these forms access rights which
> means you can fill them in, print and save them. Not so with Adobe
> Reader 9.0 It will no longer allow you to save forms with IRS document
> rights. Not good.


What is "IRS document rights"?

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
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Old 11-22-2008, 04:19 AM
jhhtexas
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Default Beware free Adobe Reader 9.0

Adobe Reader 9.0 is not a good upgrade if you ever download forms from
the IRS website. The IRS has granted these forms access rights which
means you can fill them in, print and save them. Not so with Adobe
Reader 9.0 It will no longer allow you to save forms with IRS document
rights. Not good.

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 

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