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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
speaking of success in accounting.> > Stuart A. Bronstein wrote: > > > But that won't help with the second fry. > > I was about to say, "the secrets of success in accounting are: > > Pro rate and Allocate". > And all these years, I thought it was "Plug n Fudge". > Dick Well, at least that's what I used to tell my accounting students! And The senior partner of a major firm was at his retirement dinner after 45 years of continuous and most prosperous service to both his firm and the profession. His successor was speaking after dinner and related how he noticed the senior every morning upon arriving at the office going to his wall safe, unlocking it, taking out a small folded piece of paper, opening it up and reading it while in deep thought. He would then nod, smile and replace the memo and spin the lock on the safe. So, he asked the senior, just what was so important about that after all these long years of working in public accounting? What IS written on that piece of paper. the senior just sat silent, but after dinner passed along to his successor the combo to the safe. Next morning, he couldn't wait to get to the office and open the safe. 36 right; 37, left; 11 to the right! Click! suspense............! He took out the small quad folded note and opened it up and to his amazement it read: ..... ..... ... .. "Debits to the door; credits towards the window." (grin) ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Harlan Lunsford <lunstax[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Stuart A. Bronstein wrote:
And all these years, I thought it was "Plug n Fudge".> > But that won't help with the second fry. > I was about to say, "the secrets of success in accounting are: > Pro rate and Allocate". Dick -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Stuart A. Bronstein wrote: - quote - > sethb[at]panix.com (Seth) wrote:
I was about to say, "the secrets of success in accounting are: Pro> > Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > "Seth" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote > > > > (Is use tax about "first use"? > > > First use or consumption. That's the technicals, but it'll never > > > get that far in reality (or yet anyway). As the law is written, > > > if Iwere to go to Phjoenix City Alabama and buy a Big MAc meal > > > then drive into Georgia to consume that meal, the use tax is due > > > on that consumption, > > So in that situation you should eat one fry in Alabama ("first > > use") to avoid the issue? > But that won't help with the second fry. rate and Allocate". ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sethb[at]panix.com (Seth) wrote: - quote - > Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
But that won't help with the second fry.> > "Seth" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote > > > (Is use tax about "first use"? > > > First use or consumption. That's the technicals, but it'll never > > get that far in reality (or yet anyway). As the law is written, > > if Iwere to go to Phjoenix City Alabama and buy a Big MAc meal > > then drive into Georgia to consume that meal, the use tax is due > > on that consumption, > So in that situation you should eat one fry in Alabama ("first > use") to avoid the issue? Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <ti3Rk.170$Lv6.0[at]bignews8.bellsouth.net> , Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > "Seth" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote
So in that situation you should eat one fry in Alabama ("first use")> > (Is use tax about "first use"? > First use or consumption. That's the technicals, but it'll never get that > far in reality (or yet anyway). As the law is written, if Iwere to go to > Phjoenix City Alabama and buy a Big MAc meal then drive into Georgia to > consume that meal, the use tax is due on that consumption, to avoid the issue? Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| paultry wrote: - quote - > Harlan Lunsford wrote: > > Howsoever...... The Georgia use tax is 4%, at least I reckon it is, > > and since you get a credit for any sales tax paid the other state, > > Alabama, whose rate is also 4% it nets out to zero. > But what about those untaxed groceries purchased in Florida and taken > home to Alabama? If Phenix city were close to Florida, that might matter. On a more practical note however, Georgia, just across the river doesn't have a state sales tax on groceries, so my wife pays only the local sales taxes of 3% the few and "de minimus" times she shops there. ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Harlan Lunsford wrote: - quote - > Howsoever...... The Georgia use tax is 4%, at least I reckon it is,
But what about those untaxed groceries purchased in Florida> and since you get a credit for any sales tax paid the other state, > Alabama, whose rate is also 4% it nets out to zero. and taken home to Alabama? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > First use or consumption. That's the technicals, but it'll never get that
(balance snipped....)> far in reality (or yet anyway). As the law is written, if Iwere to go to > Phjoenix City Alabama and buy a Big MAc meal then drive into Georgia to > consume that meal, the use tax is due on that consumption, although the > amount is minimal when consider the cost and the fact that the evidence the > tax collector might use is kind of $hi++y. Howsoever...... The Georgia use tax is 4%, at least I reckon it is, and since you get a credit for any sales tax paid the other state, Alabama, whose rate is also 4% it nets out to zero. Clarification: "Phjoenix" = "Phenix" City. grin ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Seth" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote - quote - > (Is use tax about "first use"? First use or consumption. That's the technicals, but it'll never get that far in reality (or yet anyway). As the law is written, if Iwere to go to Phjoenix City Alabama and buy a Big MAc meal then drive into Georgia to consume that meal, the use tax is due on that consumption, although the amount is minimal when consider the cost and the fact that the evidence the tax collector might use is kind of $hi++y. But lets bring that to reality and address the tire being "used" in that state. A contractor is generally considered to be the end user / consumer of the materials it uses to build the building. They pay sales tax on the materials when they buy them. If, say, the plumber with the contract to plumb a new 150 room dorm at the University calls the toilet manufacturer and gets them to load up a truck for delivery (or they go and get it), then a "use" tax is due from the contractor to the state the building is in - not the state they buy it from. - quote - > So if I buy something in a no-sales-tax state and > use it before returning home, no use tax is owed?) Absolutely. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <ISGQk.52755$IB6.333[at]bignews8.bellsouth.net> , Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > "Stuart Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> wrote
You didn't first use it for the exercise of lifting it into your trunk> > "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > But if you get a flat, have someone watch your back while you > > > change the tire? > > > Remember the use tax? > Right.............. > I first "used" that tire in that state, so..... in the state where you bought it? (Is use tax about "first use"? So if I buy something in a no-sales-tax state and use it before returning home, no use tax is owed?) Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote - quote - > I'm entitled. Yeah. Not by the Dems measure. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote
Huh? via umployment benefits? You mean I won't get another> > And just to THINK about their consideration of a second stimulus tax > > package. brrr....! > My take on that was it's for the unemployed, so pay it out through > unemployment benefits or other welfare systems and not involve the tax > system. As it is, it'll be January when the new Bozo's take control, and > it'll be into February or March before most find their way around inside the > beltway, April or May before any respectable (and that may be what keeps it > held up for months) legislation comes forward. By then we're well on the > way out of the recession they're just now deciding we're in. Most of the 08 > returns will be filed. 1,200$?????? But..... I'm entitled. - quote - > All I see from this is more business in tax planning for the new 2010 tax
ChEAr$,> laws. > Ka CHING! Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hlunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote - quote - > rick++ wrote: > > Congress made up for it by adding tax law > > amendments to major pieces of 2008 legislation. > > These include Stimulus Act, Housing Rescue Act, > > Energy Act, and the Big "Bailout" Act. Lots of things > > to bedevil tax preparers next season. > > And just to THINK about their consideration of a second stimulus tax > package. brrr....! My take on that was it's for the unemployed, so pay it out through unemployment benefits or other welfare systems and not involve the tax system. As it is, it'll be January when the new Bozo's take control, and it'll be into February or March before most find their way around inside the beltway, April or May before any respectable (and that may be what keeps it held up for months) legislation comes forward. By then we're well on the way out of the recession they're just now deciding we're in. Most of the 08 returns will be filed. All I see from this is more business in tax planning for the new 2010 tax laws. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| rick++ wrote: - quote - > Congress made up for it by adding tax law
package. brrr....!> amendments to major pieces of 2008 legislation. > These include Stimulus Act, Housing Rescue Act, > Energy Act, and the Big "Bailout" Act. Lots of things > to bedevil tax preparers next season. And just to THINK about their consideration of a second stimulus tax ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > But if you get a flat, have someone watch your back while you change the
Hmm, sort of like having two flat tires on a country road up in Tugaloo> tire? river country. scarrrry! ChEAr$, Harlan -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Stuart Bronstein" <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> wrote - quote - > "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > "Mark Bole" <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote > > > dapperdobbs wrote: > > > > It'd be kind of scary just driving through Oregon ... never > > > > know when you might be taxed! > > > > > Don't worry, you can drive across the state on I-5 at a > > > reasonable speed without spending the night ... > > > But if you get a flat, have someone watch your back while you > > change the tire? > Remember the use tax? Right.............. I first "used" that tire in that state, so..... Oh the wicked tax tales we could weave. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > "Mark Bole" <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote
Remember the use tax?> > dapperdobbs wrote: > > > It'd be kind of scary just driving through Oregon ... never > > > know when you might be taxed! > > > Don't worry, you can drive across the state on I-5 at a > > reasonable speed without spending the night ... > But if you get a flat, have someone watch your back while you > change the tire? Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Mark Bole" <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote - quote - > dapperdobbs wrote: > > It'd be kind of scary just driving through Oregon ... never > > know when you might be taxed! > Don't worry, you can drive across the state on I-5 at a reasonable speed > without spending the night ... But if you get a flat, have someone watch your back while you change the tire? -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| dapperdobbs wrote: - quote - > Glanced at Oregon - a girl there had told me there was no income tax.
It's Washington that has no income tax in that corner of the country.- quote - > It'd be kind of scary just driving through Oregon ... never
Don't worry, you can drive across the state on I-5 at a reasonable speed> know when you might be taxed! without spending the night ... -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Congress made up for it by adding tax law amendments to major pieces of 2008 legislation. These include Stimulus Act, Housing Rescue Act, Energy Act, and the Big "Bailout" Act. Lots of things to bedevil tax preparers next season. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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