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| Bill Brown <brownwp[at]longwood.edu> wrote: - quote - > nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote:
Exactly. Thanks for the correction.> > If I go the loan amount, why is there a $12k limit/year? > There is no such limit (as stated by dpb). Where Bronstein said, "If > it's loans, each one can give you $12,000 ...," I believe he made a > typo and should have said, "It it's gifts ..." Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Nov 3, 5:40*pm, nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > If I go the loan amount, why is there a $12k limit/year?
There is no such limit (as stated by dpb). Where Bronstein said, "Ifit's loans, each one can give you $12,000 ...," I believe he made a typo and should have said, "It it's gifts ..." -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > On Nov 3, 3:41 pm, Stuart Bronstein <spamt...[at]lexregia.com> wrote:
The $12K limit is the gifting limit; nothing to do w/ a bona fide loan.> > If it's loans, each one can give you $12,000 each year. So they could > > give you $24,000 now and another $6,000 in January. If you're married > > it's double. But them making gifts to you and then you making gifts > > back is a lot more trouble than it's worth. > If I go the loan amount, why is there a $12k limit/year? I would think > there is no limit so long as they are charging market value interest > rates? > Regarding the gifting, what more do we need than a signed piece of > paper saying the money was gifted and gifted back? For gifts under that, there's nothing at all required. In fact, creating a paper trail of a supposed "gift" w/ the strings attached that it was expected to be paid back would negate it actually being a gift. Of course, that there's any expectation written or not that the purported gift is to be repaid means it isn't really a gift at all but a sham to avoid legitimate loan and (presumably) the need of the "gifter" to report interest as income and the need for the "giftee" to pay interest. -- -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Nov 3, 3:41 pm, Stuart Bronstein <spamt...[at]lexregia.com> wrote: - quote - > If it's loans, each one can give you $12,000 each year. So they could
If I go the loan amount, why is there a $12k limit/year? I would think> give you $24,000 now and another $6,000 in January. If you're married > it's double. But them making gifts to you and then you making gifts > back is a lot more trouble than it's worth. there is no limit so long as they are charging market value interest rates? Regarding the gifting, what more do we need than a signed piece of paper saying the money was gifted and gifted back? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > What is the best way to receive a 4-month $30,000 loan from my
Why not just do it as an actual loan? Your folks will be required to> parents. Could they each gift me $10k and then loan me the remaining > the $10k at prevailing interest rates? Then I just gift them back the > $20k and pay back the $10k loan with interest? > Since my parents hold joint accounts on everything, how exactly would > the IRS know which parent gave $10? Or is it $20k per couple? charge interest. But legally that would be the cleanest. If it's loans, each one can give you $12,000 each year. So they could give you $24,000 now and another $6,000 in January. If you're married it's double. But them making gifts to you and then you making gifts back is a lot more trouble than it's worth. Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| What is the best way to receive a 4-month $30,000 loan from my parents. Could they each gift me $10k and then loan me the remaining the $10k at prevailing interest rates? Then I just gift them back the $20k and pay back the $10k loan with interest? Since my parents hold joint accounts on everything, how exactly would the IRS know which parent gave $10? Or is it $20k per couple? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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