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| On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:57:18 EST, Alan <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > There are some other goodies buried inside some 457 plans for
Public 457s have a great catchup. Providing the participant> governmental employees. I am almost sure that there is some > additional catchup provision when you get within 3 years of > retirement. qualifies, he/she can contribution an additional $15500 until they have "caught up". That goes to $16000 in 09. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Steve Pope wrote: - quote - > Alan <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
other than churches.> > Steve Pope wrote: > > > Is there any possibility to rollover normal distributions > > > from a (non-governmental) deferred compensation plan > > > into an IRA or other qualified plan? > > No. You have a nonqualified plan. The only plans that can be > > rolled over to an IRA are qualified plans (pension, > > profit-sharing & stock bonus), annuity plans, 403(b) plans and > > governmental 457 plans. > Thanks, that is what I have assumed. > So ... is their any logic behind governmental employees > getting a break on this? (I realize tax laws are not > based on logic.) > Steve It's not just state & local gov't. It also includes tax-exempts Since the passage of EGTRRA 2001, governmental employees certainly have more ability to shelter income from taxes and grow savings tax-free. That act, dropped the combined contribution limit of 457 plans with other defined contribution plans. Since then, an eligible employer can offer a 401(k) or a 403(b) AND a 457 plan. The employee can contribute the maximum to both plans. In 2009, that could be $33,000 plus another $11,000 in catchup contributions if age 50. An employee with a private company in a 401(k) could only contribute half those amounts. There are some other goodies buried inside some 457 plans for governmental employees. I am almost sure that there is some additional catchup provision when you get within 3 years of retirement. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Alan <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Steve Pope wrote:
Thanks, that is what I have assumed.> > Is there any possibility to rollover normal distributions > > from a (non-governmental) deferred compensation plan > > into an IRA or other qualified plan? > No. You have a nonqualified plan. The only plans that can be > rolled over to an IRA are qualified plans (pension, > profit-sharing & stock bonus), annuity plans, 403(b) plans and > governmental 457 plans. So ... is their any logic behind governmental employees getting a break on this? (I realize tax laws are not based on logic.) Steve -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Steve Pope wrote: - quote - > Is there any possibility to rollover normal distributions
No. You have a nonqualified plan. The only plans that can be> from a (non-governmental) deferred compensation plan > into an IRA or other qualified plan? rolled over to an IRA are qualified plans (pension, profit-sharing & stock bonus), annuity plans, 403(b) plans and governmental 457 plans. - quote - > In researching this, I see lots of references to doing
--> this rollover when the plan is held at a federal, state, or > municipal employer, but nothing on the case of private > employer plans. > I am not sure exactly what sort of deferred comp plan it > is -- perhaps 409(a). (Tangential question, Section 457 > plans are limited to government employers, or is that > not the case?) > Thanks, > Steve > ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: > It would help to know exactly what type of plan this is. Also what > is the nature of the distribution? << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Is there any possibility to rollover normal distributions from a (non-governmental) deferred compensation plan into an IRA or other qualified plan? In researching this, I see lots of references to doing this rollover when the plan is held at a federal, state, or municipal employer, but nothing on the case of private employer plans. I am not sure exactly what sort of deferred comp plan it is -- perhaps 409(a). (Tangential question, Section 457 plans are limited to government employers, or is that not the case?) Thanks, Steve ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: It would help to know exactly what type of plan this is. Also what is the nature of the distribution? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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