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Old 10-30-2008, 01:13 PM
DF2
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Default Re: ADR/ADS fees add to basis?

In misc.taxes.moderated, Alan wrote:

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> When you own American Depository Receipts (ADRs) of a foreign
> company trading on U.S. exchanges, you will generally see two
> charges when dividends are paid: a dividend fee (sometimes listed
> as Admin. Fee) and foreign taxes paid. You report the gross
> amount of dividend as that is what will show up on your 1099-DIV.
> Assuming you meet the requirement to avoid filing Form 1116, you
> can directly deduct the foreign tax paid on the applicable Form
> 1040 line. The dividend fee is not added to cost basis of the
> shares. It is your cost for collecting the dividend and as such
> is a misc. itemized deduction. The fee is stipulated in the
> Deposit Agreement between the depositary bank and the company.


Thanks.

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Old 10-30-2008, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: ADR/ADS fees add to basis?

In misc.taxes.moderated, Arthur Kamlet wrote:

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> Since this is an ADR, is the $2 a foreign tax that you paid and
> is automatically taken from your dividend?
> If so, you may be eligible to take a foreign tax credit or
> deduct the foreign tax on schedule A. If all your foreign tax
> is from passive sources such as dividends, and is less than
> $300 (600 MFJ) you simply take the credit on page 2 of Form 1040.
> Otherwise you can fill out form 1116 to calculate the amount of
> foreign tax credit.


Yep. This one was not the "withheld" tax.

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> If the $2 fee is not foreign tax withheld, it is a misc 2% investment
> expense.



Thanks. That's what I had been thinking, but I hoped otherwise.

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Old 10-29-2008, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: ADR/ADS fees add to basis?

DF2 wrote:
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> I seem to remember somebody posting that the ADR fees, that the
> depositary bank charges when you get a dividend, add to the basis.
> Was that correct? I did a lot of searching to try to find that, and
> I came up empty.
> For example, I get a $90 dividend, and I get charged a $2 fee for
> the dividend, netting $88 in cash. $90 is put on the 1099-DIV for
> that stock. Is the $2 a miscellaneous investment expense, (and thus
> not of use to me) or does it reduce the basis by $2?

When you own American Depository Receipts (ADRs) of a foreign
company trading on U.S. exchanges, you will generally see two
charges when dividends are paid: a dividend fee (sometimes listed
as Admin. Fee) and foreign taxes paid. You report the gross
amount of dividend as that is what will show up on your 1099-DIV.
Assuming you meet the requirement to avoid filing Form 1116, you
can directly deduct the foreign tax paid on the applicable Form
1040 line. The dividend fee is not added to cost basis of the
shares. It is your cost for collecting the dividend and as such
is a misc. itemized deduction. The fee is stipulated in the
Deposit Agreement between the depositary bank and the company.

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Old 10-29-2008, 08:49 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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Default Re: ADR/ADS fees add to basis?

In article <n4khg49kth6ip69rjt27r9r1gsf9h23qp6[at]4ax.com> ,
DF2 <replyvia[at]newsgroup_please.com> wrote:
- quote -

> I seem to remember somebody posting that the ADR fees, that the
> depositary bank charges when you get a dividend, add to the basis.
> Was that correct? I did a lot of searching to try to find that, and
> I came up empty.
> For example, I get a $90 dividend, and I get charged a $2 fee for
> the dividend, netting $88 in cash. $90 is put on the 1099-DIV for
> that stock. Is the $2 a miscellaneous investment expense, (and thus
> not of use to me) or does it reduce the basis by $2?



No, it does not affect basis.

Since this is an ADR, is the $2 a foreign tax that you paid and
is automatically taken from your dividend?

If so, you may be eligible to take a foreign tax credit or
deduct the foreign tax on schedule A. If all your foreign tax
is from passive sources such as dividends, and is less than
$300 (600 MFJ) you simply take the credit on page 2 of Form 1040.

Otherwise you can fill out form 1116 to calculate the amount of
foreign tax credit.


If the $2 fee is not foreign tax withheld, it is a misc 2% investment
expense.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:39 PM
DF2
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Default ADR/ADS fees add to basis?

I seem to remember somebody posting that the ADR fees, that the
depositary bank charges when you get a dividend, add to the basis.
Was that correct? I did a lot of searching to try to find that, and
I came up empty.

For example, I get a $90 dividend, and I get charged a $2 fee for
the dividend, netting $88 in cash. $90 is put on the 1099-DIV for
that stock. Is the $2 a miscellaneous investment expense, (and thus
not of use to me) or does it reduce the basis by $2?

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