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| In article <J82Lk.2559$r_3.1418[at]nwrddc02.gnilink.net> , Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Seth" wrote:
I believe they exist, because that's the way to specify taxes.> > Right now, the Tax Tables have a small number of brackets and rates. > > Each candidate's plan uses different ones. What are they? > If you already know that these brackets exist, why are you asking? - quote - > I suspect it's because you assume there's that level of specificity
That's correct. If their proposals are only at the level of "I want> in the candidates' proposals, not because you've seen it. to lower taxes" there wouldn't have been "independent" analyses of who would be affected how much. Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| way111[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > Here's a really detailed analysis of the effect of each plan on
I certainly didn't read the whole thing, but skimmed it concentrating on> marginal tax rates: > http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa..._proposals.pdf the conclusion and the appendix, where the "good stuff" is, such as how forecasting and modeling was handled. The whole analysis is primarily concerned with wage income earners. There is also the issue of credits. Some folks actually consider credits not received as part of their tax rate. IMO, kind of like considering unemployment compensation not received as a reduction in your wages. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Here's a really detailed analysis of the effect of each plan on marginal tax rates: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/Uploa..._proposals.pdf -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Seth" wrote: - quote - > Right now, the Tax Tables have a small number of brackets and rates.
If you already know that these brackets exist, why are you asking? I> Each candidate's plan uses different ones. What are they? suspect it's because you assume there's that level of specificity in the candidates' proposals, not because you've seen it. For reasons noted before I've paid scant attention to the campaign babble about taxes. The one general thing I vaguely recall about individual income tax rates is that Obama would restore the higher rates eliminated by the "Bush tax cuts" which capped it at 35%. I've also heard rumblings about $200,000 and $250,000 from both sides, but except for filing status MFS even $250,000 of taxable income is only in the current 33% bracket, so I don't know what they were talking about other than Joe the Plumber. I believe McCain is also proposing cutting the corporate rate. Beyond that affiant sayeth nothing. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <s%PKk.5874$YU2.3534[at]nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com> , Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote: - quote - > joetaxpayer wrote:
Nobody is asking for them to.> > Note: Do not reply with any political comment or attack against either > > candidate. Those replies will not be approved. > > When a client with AGI > > of $250K asks how his taxes will be impacted, there's really no good > > response as these ranges are too wide. > Two comments that meet your criteria: > 1) You're looking for a level of detail that does not yet exist. After > all, the "candidates" don't make tax law, so how could they provide > worksheets that cover all situations in detail? Right now, the Tax Tables have a small number of brackets and rates. Each candidate's plan uses different ones. What are they? (Yes, the relative amount of earned income, Capital Gains (of various types), dividends, etc. will affect the overall taxes owed differently under the different plans. That's acknowledged. But it doesn't prevent the question from being answered, say under the assumption that all income is earned.) Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| joetaxpayer wrote: - quote - > Note: Do not reply with any political comment or attack against either
Two comments that meet your criteria:> candidate. Those replies will not be approved. > When a client with AGI > of $250K asks how his taxes will be impacted, there's really no good > response as these ranges are too wide. 1) You're looking for a level of detail that does not yet exist. After all, the "candidates" don't make tax law, so how could they provide worksheets that cover all situations in detail? Perhaps each political party should provide free tax predictor game software, just enter your AGI and see if you can guess the result? The player who guesses closest, wins! ;-) 2) Taxes, like government overall, should be considered in a context that extends beyond just one year and just one person or family. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Note: Do not reply with any political comment or attack against either candidate. Those replies will not be approved. I've seen examples comparing both candidates plans, and it appears to me that he graphic created is from the same data source. They all offer the tax for incomes of $161K-$227K as a group, with the next group as $227K to $603K. I've searched for some time now for a chart or calculator which will offer the tax implication in between. When a client with AGI of $250K asks how his taxes will be impacted, there's really no good response as these ranges are too wide. Anyone come upon data with better granularity? Joe -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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