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Old 10-13-2008, 03:51 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 13:27:36 EDT, "sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com"
<namlak[at]gmail.com> wrote:


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> 1. This is a 403(b), not an IRA. Therefore, the applicable IRS
> Publication is Pub 571.
> 2. A surviving spouse can not treat it as if it was her own retirement
> plan.
> 3. It is highly likely that the plan contains a clause that requires
> the plan balance be distributed to the beneficiary within a relatively
> short time.
> 3. The surviving spouse can avoid being taxed on distributions by
> rolling it over into her own IRA.
> 4. Once in her own IRA, then the normal rules for minimum
> distributions from your own IRA apply.


Thank you for an excellent post. I was not aware of this important
difference between 403b and 401k/IRA.



-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 10-08-2008, 05:27 PM
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On Oct 6, 11:59*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "zkeith" <zqui...[at]okstate.edu> wrote:
> > I have a 403(B) retirement account with my wife as my beneficiary.
> > I'd like answers to the following questions using the assumption that
> > I die before she does:
> > 1. *Will she be taxed at the same rate on the distributions from this
> > retirement account as we are while I'm living (making the adjustment
> > for her status as being "single" rather than "married filing jointly"?

> Distributions are "ordinary" income, meaning that they get lumped with all
> the other income she has for the year of distribution. *There's no special
> rate.
> > 2. *My wife is 2 years younger than I am. *Will the RMD be adjusted to
> > reflect her remaining life expectancy at the time I die, or will the
> > RMD continue to be calculated on my remaining life expectancy although
> > I'm not longer living?

> A spousal beneficiary can elect to treat the account as her own or as
> inherited. *See IRS Publication 575 for the differences.
> --
> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD


1. This is a 403(b), not an IRA. Therefore, the applicable IRS
Publication is Pub 571.
2. A surviving spouse can not treat it as if it was her own retirement
plan.
3. It is highly likely that the plan contains a clause that requires
the plan balance be distributed to the beneficiary within a relatively
short time.
3. The surviving spouse can avoid being taxed on distributions by
rolling it over into her own IRA.
4. Once in her own IRA, then the normal rules for minimum
distributions from your own IRA apply.

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Old 10-07-2008, 05:59 AM
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"zkeith" <zquible[at]okstate.edu> wrote:

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> I have a 403(B) retirement account with my wife as my beneficiary.
> I'd like answers to the following questions using the assumption that
> I die before she does:
> 1. Will she be taxed at the same rate on the distributions from this
> retirement account as we are while I'm living (making the adjustment
> for her status as being "single" rather than "married filing jointly"?


Distributions are "ordinary" income, meaning that they get lumped with all
the other income she has for the year of distribution. There's no special
rate.

- quote -

> 2. My wife is 2 years younger than I am. Will the RMD be adjusted to
> reflect her remaining life expectancy at the time I die, or will the
> RMD continue to be calculated on my remaining life expectancy although
> I'm not longer living?


A spousal beneficiary can elect to treat the account as her own or as
inherited. See IRS Publication 575 for the differences.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 10-07-2008, 04:14 AM
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Default Taxes and 403(B) Retirement Account

I have a 403(B) retirement account with my wife as my beneficiary.
I'd like answers to the following questions using the assumption that
I die before she does:

1. Will she be taxed at the same rate on the distributions from this
retirement account as we are while I'm living (making the adjustment
for her status as being "single" rather than "married filing jointly"?

2. My wife is 2 years younger than I am. Will the RMD be adjusted to
reflect her remaining life expectancy at the time I die, or will the
RMD continue to be calculated on my remaining life expectancy although
I'm not longer living?

3. If I should die before I turn 70.5, does she have until she
reaches 70.5 to begin the RMD?

4. If she were to take any money out before she reaches 70.5, does
that count toward the first year's RMD?

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