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Old 10-11-2008, 02:49 AM
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On Oct 10, 11:23 am, "Paul Thomas, CPA"
<paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> Yup. But you had better have them when you're audited. To me, that's the
> more important thing to be assured of. In other words, the need extends far
> beyond the date you prepare and file the return.


What if you lose the documents in a fire?

Should you keep records for 3 years (normal time to be audited), 6
years (extended time to be audited if taxable income understated by
25% or more), 4 years (normal time to file an amended return in
California), 10 years (normal statute of limitations), or something
else.

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Old 10-10-2008, 06:23 PM
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"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote
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> Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > "Charlie K" <Chas_K[at]excite.com> wrote
> > > You have to have the receipt in your possession when you file.

> Said a bit diferently, contemporaneous here means the due dat of the
> tax return plus extensions.





Yup. But you had better have them when you're audited. To me, that's the
more important thing to be assured of. In other words, the need extends far
beyond the date you prepare and file the return.






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Watkinsville, Georgia

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Old 10-10-2008, 05:28 PM
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In article <rNlHk.60241$XB4.28328[at]bignews9.bellsouth.net> ,
Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> "Charlie K" <Chas_K[at]excite.com> wrote
> > You have to have the receipt in your possession when you file.



Said a bit diferently, contemporaneous here means the due dat of the
tax return plus extensions.
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Old 10-09-2008, 11:26 AM
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"Charlie K" <Chas_K[at]excite.com> wrote
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> You have to have the receipt in your possession when you file.




You might also need it when you're audited. ;-)






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Old 10-09-2008, 12:39 AM
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On Oct 8, 2:37*pm, Rich Carreiro <rlc-n...[at]rlcarr.com> wrote:
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> "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.net> writes:
> > You need to get a written receipt, which can be a canceled check to the

> Does the receipt for a cash contribution have to be cotemporaneous with
> the contribution, or can it be after the fact? *I'm in particular thinking
> of church cash donations via numbered envelopes which can be tracked
> by the church and statements issued after the end of the year.


You have to have the receipt in your possession when you file. A
church summary is acceptable and the end of the year.

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Old 10-08-2008, 09:37 PM
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"Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> writes:

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> You need to get a written receipt, which can be a canceled check to the

Does the receipt for a cash contribution have to be cotemporaneous with
the contribution, or can it be after the fact? I'm in particular thinking
of church cash donations via numbered envelopes which can be tracked
by the church and statements issued after the end of the year.

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Old 10-08-2008, 06:40 PM
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"D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
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> "dpb" <none[at]non.net> wrote in message news:gcgu2s$q19$1[at]aioe.org...
> > Gary Brown wrote:
> > > It is my understanding that the $20 I slip into the Salvation Army

> bucket is
> > > no longer deductible because it is cash and there is no receipt. Is

> that
> > > correct?

> > ...
> > Yes, ...
> > > You would have to write a check or get a receipt under the current rules

> > irregardless of the amount. I'm sure that's been really beneficial to
> > organizations such as the SA. Anybody have any information on the
> > amount of estimated increased revenue to the IRS from this has been?

> Technically, the "increased revenue" to the Government should be zero. To
> the extent that it's not, it's an indication of how many people have been
> cheating on ther tax returns.


What about people who no longer toss cash and don't carry their checkbook
around? The more the Government makes it to deduct charitable giving, the
less charitable giving there will be.

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Old 10-08-2008, 04:24 PM
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In article <gchko4$d66$1[at]snarked.org> ,
D. Stussy <replies[at]newsgroups.kd6lvw.ampr.org> wrote:
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> "dpb" <none[at]non.net> wrote in message news:gcgu2s$q19$1[at]aioe.org...

> > You would have to write a check or get a receipt under the current rules
> > irregardless of the amount. I'm sure that's been really beneficial to
> > organizations such as the SA. Anybody have any information on the
> > amount of estimated increased revenue to the IRS from this has been?

> Technically, the "increased revenue" to the Government should be zero. To
> the extent that it's not, it's an indication of how many people have been
> cheating on ther tax returns.


Why? What about people who still make cash donations, and don't
deduct them?

Seth

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Old 10-08-2008, 03:42 PM
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"dpb" <none[at]non.net> wrote in message news:gcgu2s$q19$1[at]aioe.org...
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> Gary Brown wrote:
> > It is my understanding that the $20 I slip into the Salvation Army

bucket is
> > no longer deductible because it is cash and there is no receipt. Is

that
> > correct?

> ...
> Yes, ...
> You would have to write a check or get a receipt under the current rules
> irregardless of the amount. I'm sure that's been really beneficial to
> organizations such as the SA. Anybody have any information on the
> amount of estimated increased revenue to the IRS from this has been?


Technically, the "increased revenue" to the Government should be zero. To
the extent that it's not, it's an indication of how many people have been
cheating on ther tax returns.

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Old 10-08-2008, 02:20 AM
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Gary Brown wrote:
....
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> It is my understanding that the $20 I slip into the Salvation Army bucket is
> no longer deductible because it is cash and there is no receipt. Is that
> correct?

....
Yes, ...

You would have to write a check or get a receipt under the current rules
irregardless of the amount. I'm sure that's been really beneficial to
organizations such as the SA. Anybody have any information on the
amount of estimated increased revenue to the IRS from this has been?

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Old 10-07-2008, 12:43 PM
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"Gary Brown" <garyjbrown[at]charter.net> wrote
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> With Christmas season upcoming we will be making the usual donations.
> It is my understanding that the $20 I slip into the Salvation Army bucket
> is
> no longer deductible because it is cash and there is no receipt. Is that
> correct?
> We also contribute toys. Some are placed in a collection box without a
> receipt but we do have purchase receipts. These are deductible?





You need to get a written receipt, which can be a canceled check to the
charity. Without proof that the toys were given to the charity, it'd be
questioned, but the deduction not necessarily be denied. For non-cash
contributions valuation is the bigger question, and you have a receipt for
that.




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Old 10-07-2008, 04:14 AM
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Hi,

With Christmas season upcoming we will be making the usual donations.
It is my understanding that the $20 I slip into the Salvation Army bucket is
no longer deductible because it is cash and there is no receipt. Is that
correct?

We also contribute toys. Some are placed in a collection box without a
receipt but we do have purchase receipts. These are deductible?

Thanks,
Gary

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