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| "Seth" <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote - quote - > That would seem to agree with my position: there's no > requirement that spouses or children be permitted, > but rather a statement that the IRS won't disqualify > a deduction if they are. You read correctly. What you have to do though, is make sure that the rule the company puts in place is the same for every employee. So the owner's wife or kid can't be pumping iron while the janitor's wife is locked out. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <gc97la$5bi$1[at]reader1.panix.com> , Arthur Kamlet <-To[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > In article <gc95jd$1ev$1[at]reader1.panix.com> , Seth <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote:
That would seem to agree with my position: there's no requirement that> > In article <hsbFk.41904$kh2.40650[at]bignews3.bellsouth.net> , > > Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > The value of using the fitness center is not income to the employee because > > > it's a tax-free fringe benefit if certain conditions are met. Namely all > > > employees, their spouses and children must be allowed to use the facility, > > > and the general public can not. > > > Is it really a requirement that spouses and children be permitted to > > use the facility? > > > > Other restrictions are in place. See Regulation 1.132-1(e). > > > That seems to imply that use by spouses and children is not prohibited > > by the IRS. > Page 7 of IRS Pub 15b, says: > Athletic Facilities > You can exclude the value of an employees use of an > on-premises gym or other athletic facility you operate from > an employees wages if substantially all use of the facility > during the calendar year is by your employees, their > spouses, and their dependent children. For this purpose, > an employees dependent child is a child or stepchild who > is the employees dependent or who, if both parents are > deceased, has not attained the age of 25. spouses or children be permitted, but rather a statement that the IRS won't disqualify a deduction if they are. Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <gc95jd$1ev$1[at]reader1.panix.com> , Seth <sethb[at]panix.com> wrote: - quote - > In article <hsbFk.41904$kh2.40650[at]bignews3.bellsouth.net> , > Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > The value of using the fitness center is not income to the employee because > > it's a tax-free fringe benefit if certain conditions are met. Namely all > > employees, their spouses and children must be allowed to use the facility, > > and the general public can not. > Is it really a requirement that spouses and children be permitted to > use the facility? > > Other restrictions are in place. See Regulation 1.132-1(e). > That seems to imply that use by spouses and children is not prohibited > by the IRS. Page 7 of IRS Pub 15b, says: Athletic Facilities You can exclude the value of an employees use of an on-premises gym or other athletic facility you operate from an employees wages if substantially all use of the facility during the calendar year is by your employees, their spouses, and their dependent children. For this purpose, an employees dependent child is a child or stepchild who is the employees dependent or who, if both parents are deceased, has not attained the age of 25. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <hsbFk.41904$kh2.40650[at]bignews3.bellsouth.net> , Paul Thomas, CPA <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > The value of using the fitness center is not income to the employee because
Is it really a requirement that spouses and children be permitted to> it's a tax-free fringe benefit if certain conditions are met. Namely all > employees, their spouses and children must be allowed to use the facility, > and the general public can not. use the facility? - quote - > Other restrictions are in place. See Regulation 1.132-1(e).
That seems to imply that use by spouses and children is not prohibitedby the IRS. Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Oct 2, 2:59 pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > "Chris Ruehrwein" <crueh...[at]mathworks.com> wrote
There might be tax credits from the city, though I doubt it, so better> > Can a public/private company get a tax credit for > > suppling a fitness center at the workplace? check there as well. - quote - > No tax credits per se. The costs of operating them are deductible by the
At my company, the spouse can use the gym, but they have to pay an> business of course. > The value of using the fitness center is not income to the employee because > it's a tax-free fringe benefit if certain conditions are met. Namely all > employees, their spouses and children must be allowed to use the facility, > and the general public can not. Other restrictions are in place. See > Regulation 1.132-1(e). additional fee. It's free for employees. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Chris Ruehrwein" <cruehrwe[at]mathworks.com> wrote - quote - > Can a public/private company get a tax credit for > suppling a fitness center at the workplace? No tax credits per se. The costs of operating them are deductible by the business of course. The value of using the fitness center is not income to the employee because it's a tax-free fringe benefit if certain conditions are met. Namely all employees, their spouses and children must be allowed to use the facility, and the general public can not. Other restrictions are in place. See Regulation 1.132-1(e). If you're talking serious bucks here, and not a bow-flex for the corner of the break room, talk to your corporate accountant about this, who gets to use it, when, and how the expenses are deducted (equipment would be depreciated). -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Watkinsville, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Can a public/private company get a tax credit for suppling a fitness center at the workplace? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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