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Old 09-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Gil Faver
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Default Re: 1040 filing requirement if NOL carryforward but no current year income


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> "Gil Faver" <rowdy'sboss[at]xxyz.com> wrote in message
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> > "D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
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> > > <choffman40[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:34e2a21a-46f0-4e32-8bf9-71de921117af[at]w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
> > > > income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
> > > > return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.
> > > > > NOL: There certainly is a computation needed as such things like the
> > > personal exemption do eat away at the NOL.
> > > How does the personal exemption eat away at the NOL?

> Fill out Form 1045's schedules and watch.


I have done so, and do not see that the personal exemption eats away at the
NOL carryforward in years where the taxpayer has zero income.

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Old 09-28-2008, 10:54 PM
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"Gil Faver" <rowdy'sboss[at]xxyz.com> wrote in message
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> "D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
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> > <choffman40[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:34e2a21a-46f0-4e32-8bf9-71de921117af[at]w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
> > > income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
> > > return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.
> > > NOL: There certainly is a computation needed as such things like the

> > personal exemption do eat away at the NOL.

> How does the personal exemption eat away at the NOL?


Fill out Form 1045's schedules and watch.

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Old 09-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: 1040 filing requirement if NOL carryforward but no current year income


"D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote in message
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> <choffman40[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:34e2a21a-46f0-4e32-8bf9-71de921117af[at]w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
> > income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
> > return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.

> NOL: There certainly is a computation needed as such things like the
> personal exemption do eat away at the NOL.


How does the personal exemption eat away at the NOL?

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Old 09-28-2008, 04:37 PM
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D. Stussy wrote:
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> <choffman40[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:34e2a21a-46f0-4e32-8bf9-71de921117af[at]w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
> > income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
> > return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.

> NOL: There certainly is a computation needed as such things like the
> personal exemption do eat away at the NOL.
> CL: In general, that won't be eaten away.
> Filing a return when not otherwise required is advisable in some
> situations - for that's the only way the period of limitations gets started.

However, the real answer to the question on the fact of it is "no."

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 09-28-2008, 10:50 AM
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<choffman40[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
> income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
> return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.


NOL: There certainly is a computation needed as such things like the
personal exemption do eat away at the NOL.

CL: In general, that won't be eaten away.

Filing a return when not otherwise required is advisable in some
situations - for that's the only way the period of limitations gets started.

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Old 09-28-2008, 12:37 AM
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Default 1040 filing requirement if NOL carryforward but no current yearincome

Is there a filing requirement for a 1040 if there is no current year
income but an NOL carryforward? Is it possible to lose the NOL if no
return is filed? Similar question for Capital loss carryforward.

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