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| TimW wrote: - quote - > On Sep 28, 6:36 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > TimW wrote: > > > On Sep 27, 9:06 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > Just a brief note about "cpa". In some parts of the country the term > > > > "cpa" is generic for all accountants. I regularly (still) get called > > > > by that appelation, even though I might have explained the difference > > > > many times before. > > > 1) Yes, he's a real CPA > > > 2) He may be frustrated with me, but I don't think that's why he > > > hasn't offered to help. > > > In all the years I've been doing biz with him, he's never offered ANY > > > advice, etc. about taxes + how to avoid paying too much, strategies, > > > etc., etc. -- All he's ever done is prepare my returns - not a peep of > > > advice, ever. Maybe he's just lazy(?) Who knows. > > Then I think it's high time you made a switch to an Enrolled Agent (EA) > > or even another CPA who specializes in tax work, since by now you've > > learned that not all CPA's are automatically tax qualified. A good tax > > person should be there for you year round and be proactive instead of > > reactive. As for EA over CPA, I can tell you that our fees are > > generally less than those charged by CPA's, but don't let that be your > > only criterion. For an EA near you, email me or go towww.naea.orgfor > > a national directory. > > > ChEAr$, > > Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA > I couldn't find the nat'l directory part of that site. > ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: > Click on the "Find an Enrolled Agent" link at the top-left side of > the page Also my reply didn't format exactly right; try www.naea.org C$, H -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Sep 28, 6:36 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > TimW wrote:
I couldn't find the nat'l directory part of that site.> > On Sep 27, 9:06 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > Just a brief note about "cpa". In some parts of the country the term > > > "cpa" is generic for all accountants. I regularly (still) get called > > > by that appelation, even though I might have explained the difference > > > many times before. > > 1) Yes, he's a real CPA > > 2) He may be frustrated with me, but I don't think that's why he > > hasn't offered to help. > > In all the years I've been doing biz with him, he's never offered ANY > > advice, etc. about taxes + how to avoid paying too much, strategies, > > etc., etc. -- All he's ever done is prepare my returns - not a peep of > > advice, ever. Maybe he's just lazy(?) Who knows. > Then I think it's high time you made a switch to an Enrolled Agent (EA) > or even another CPA who specializes in tax work, since by now you've > learned that not all CPA's are automatically tax qualified. A good tax > person should be there for you year round and be proactive instead of > reactive. As for EA over CPA, I can tell you that our fees are > generally less than those charged by CPA's, but don't let that be your > only criterion. For an EA near you, email me or go towww.naea.orgfor > a national directory. > ChEAr$, > Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Click on the "Find an Enrolled Agent" link at the top-left side of the page -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| TimW wrote: - quote - > On Sep 27, 9:06 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
or even another CPA who specializes in tax work, since by now you've> > Just a brief note about "cpa". In some parts of the country the term > > "cpa" is generic for all accountants. I regularly (still) get called > > by that appelation, even though I might have explained the difference > > many times before. > > 1) Yes, he's a real CPA > 2) He may be frustrated with me, but I don't think that's why he > hasn't offered to help. > In all the years I've been doing biz with him, he's never offered ANY > advice, etc. about taxes + how to avoid paying too much, strategies, > etc., etc. -- All he's ever done is prepare my returns - not a peep of > advice, ever. Maybe he's just lazy(?) Who knows. Then I think it's high time you made a switch to an Enrolled Agent (EA) learned that not all CPA's are automatically tax qualified. A good tax person should be there for you year round and be proactive instead of reactive. As for EA over CPA, I can tell you that our fees are generally less than those charged by CPA's, but don't let that be your only criterion. For an EA near you, email me or go to www.naea.org for a national directory. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Sep 27, 9:06 am, Harlan Lunsford <hlunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Paultry wrote:
1) Yes, he's a real CPA> > TimW wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 4:50 pm, "Condor" <Con...[at]loosecannon.net> wrote: > > > > > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? > > > > > Where do they get their money from? > > > > > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, > > > > independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). > > > > Condor > > > I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare > > > for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. > > Not all CPAs, EAs, and tax attorneys do collection representation. > > Start by asking yours for the names of some in your area who do. The > > ones who advertise on TV/radio will often take your money and leave you > > with another "c-ya" to add to your collection. > Just a brief note about "cpa". In some parts of the country the term > "cpa" is generic for all accountants. I regularly (still) get called > by that appelation, even though I might have explained the difference > many times before. > ChEAr$, > Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA 2) He may be frustrated with me, but I don't think that's why he hasn't offered to help. In all the years I've been doing biz with him, he's never offered ANY advice, etc. about taxes + how to avoid paying too much, strategies, etc., etc. -- All he's ever done is prepare my returns - not a peep of advice, ever. Maybe he's just lazy(?) Who knows. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paultry wrote: - quote - > TimW wrote:
"cpa" is generic for all accountants. I regularly (still) get called> > On Sep 26, 4:50 pm, "Condor" <Con...[at]loosecannon.net> wrote: > > > > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? > > > > Where do they get their money from? > > > > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, > > > > > independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). > > > > > Condor > > > I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare > > for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. > > Not all CPAs, EAs, and tax attorneys do collection representation. > Start by asking yours for the names of some in your area who do. The > ones who advertise on TV/radio will often take your money and leave you > with another "c-ya" to add to your collection. Just a brief note about "cpa". In some parts of the country the term by that appelation, even though I might have explained the difference many times before. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA in LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Sep 27, 1:21*am, TimW <wenkma...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > On Sep 26, 4:50 pm, "Condor" <Con...[at]loosecannon.net> wrote:
will take your> > > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? > > > Where do they get their money from? > > > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, > > independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). > > Condor > I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare > for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. If you are able to pay, you should expect the worst. The tv folks money, help you file one form (an Offer in Compromise), and say "sorry" when it's denied a year later. Or, if you have no assets, little free cash flow, and the IRS accepts the offer, they'll want you to appear in their tv ads. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare
Perhaps your CPA is justifiably exasperated that you failed to heed his> for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. advice about making estimated tax payments or that you did not seek his counsel when it should have been apparent that you could expect a large tax liability. Condor -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| TimW wrote: - quote - > On Sep 26, 4:50 pm, "Condor" <Con...[at]loosecannon.net> wrote:
Not all CPAs, EAs, and tax attorneys do collection> > > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? > > > Where do they get their money from? > > > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, > > > independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). > > > Condor > I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare > for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. representation. Start by asking yours for the names of some in your area who do. The ones who advertise on TV/radio will often take your money and leave you with another "c-ya" to add to your collection. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Sep 26, 4:50 pm, "Condor" <Con...[at]loosecannon.net> wrote: - quote - > > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio?
I do have a cpa -- all he did was prepare my returns + said to prepare> > Where do they get their money from? > > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, > independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). > Condor for the worst, then c-ya -- and he's been my accountant for 20 years. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? > Where do they get their money from? > From suckers without enough gumption to engage the services of a local, independent certified public accountant (CPA) or enrolled agent (EA). Condor -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Condor" <Condor[at]loosecannon.net> wrote in message news eOdnbD-Irt23kDVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d[at]comcast.com...- quote - > > 1) Which is better -- to call the nat'l IRS office, or to go to a
However, if the walk-in office also has a Revenue Officer group based at the> > LOCAL IRS office -- to resolve a back taxes issue? > I assume you're asking whether it's preferable to call the IRS toll-free > number or pay an in-person visit to your local IRS walk-in office. The > answer depends on some variables, but in general, I think you'll get better > service in a walk-in office. When addressing a balance over $25,000 than > the taxpayer expects to take longer than 3 years to pay, neither walk-in nor > toll-free are authorized to set up an Installment Agreement (IA). Taxpayers > whose situations fall outside of what IRS considers "streamlined" criteria, > must go through either the Automated Collection System (ACS) or a revenue > officer. same location, sometimes, the walk-in staff can refer you directly to an RO. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| What happens when I hire one of those places advertised on TV/radio? Where do they get their money from? When you say 'liquid assets' you mean cash, yes? Would they go after real estate? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| TimW wrote: - quote - > Not really wondering which will give 'better service.' More
"Caring less" could work both ways -- if someone on the other side> interested in which option will produce more or less intense focus. I > remember hearing that one option will get an officer who cares LESS > about the particular/individual case -- and therefore might me more > lenient. doesn't care very much, why would they be inclined to spend any extra time (beyond their minimum job requirements) working out an arrangement in your favor? - quote - > Also, what about an approx 30k debt -- but CAN pay back within 3 yrs
For that level of delinquency, and given the naivete of your approach> or less? Does it sound like they might go for a pmt arrangement? posted here so far, you should hire a professional to represent you. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > Also, what about an approx 30k debt -- but CAN pay back within 3 yrs
If there are no other compliance obstacles such as unfiled returns and the> or less? Does it sound like they might go for a pmt arrangement? collection information statement (CIS) does not reflect sufficient liquid assets to pay off sooner, odds are good IRS will approve the IA. An IA for a balance this large will need to be worked through ACS. Condor -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Thanks. Not really wondering which will give 'better service.' More interested in which option will produce more or less intense focus. I remember hearing that one option will get an officer who cares LESS about the particular/individual case -- and therefore might me more lenient. Also, what about an approx 30k debt -- but CAN pay back within 3 yrs or less? Does it sound like they might go for a pmt arrangement? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > 1) Which is better -- to call the nat'l IRS office, or to go to a
I assume you're asking whether it's preferable to call the IRS toll-free> LOCAL IRS office -- to resolve a back taxes issue? number or pay an in-person visit to your local IRS walk-in office. The answer depends on some variables, but in general, I think you'll get better service in a walk-in office. When addressing a balance over $25,000 than the taxpayer expects to take longer than 3 years to pay, neither walk-in nor toll-free are authorized to set up an Installment Agreement (IA). Taxpayers whose situations fall outside of what IRS considers "streamlined" criteria, must go through either the Automated Collection System (ACS) or a revenue officer. Condor -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| 1) Which is better -- to call the nat'l IRS office, or to go to a LOCAL IRS office -- to resolve a back taxes issue? I heard the answer before, but I can't remember which is better. One of the two is supposedly better because they will/won't FOCUS on you more intently. 2) What trips the meter in terms of when they will/won't offer you a payment plan vs. them coming after the $$ full force? Thanks. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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