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Old 09-23-2008, 01:31 PM
Rick
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"Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> "Rick" <rick[at]nospam.com> wrote
> > What about a situation where a pharmacy offers a $25 gift card if you
> > transfer a prescription from another pharmacy. For example, I can
> > transfer a prescription from another pharmacy that would normally cost,
> > say, $10. I still have to pay the $10 to the new pharmacy, but the
> > pharmacy then gives me a free $25 gift card to use on a future purchase.
> > The question I have is can I still deduct the $10 cost of the
> > prescription as a medical expense and do I have to report the $25 gift
> > card as income?

> That sounds like income. This is based on the gift card being accepted
> off-site at a competitor store, for groceries, or beer.
> I might think differently is it's an in-store card, as that would be a
> discount off future business with them. Just like those places where you
> buy 12 subs and get the 13th sub for free.


In this case, it's an in-store gift card that can only be used at the
pharmacy (though oddly it can't be used on prescriptions)...

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Old 09-23-2008, 01:30 PM
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joe taxpayer wrote:

When you deposit
funds at a bank to get a free iPod, the value is part of income, as
interest on the account would be.


Andy comments:

And, yet, the bank declares, in their advertising, that you are
getting a
"gift". A gift is taxable only to the giver...

But at the end of the year, they add their own determination of the
value of the "gift" to your interest statement......

..... this often results in the tax due on the "gift" being greater
than the
cost of the item if the depositor had just gone out and bought
it......

Back in the 80's, I ended up in paying more tax for a toaster than a
new toaster would have cost me.... I cancelled my account with that
bank.

Andy in Eureka, Texas


Civis Eurekus Sum

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Old 09-23-2008, 05:22 AM
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"jack" <jack[at]yahoo.org> wrote in message
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> Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
> 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.
> I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting
> about $1,000 in rebates.
> Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.


It reduces your basis.

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Old 09-22-2008, 10:37 PM
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In article <_TFBk.601$2H2.431[at]fe097.usenetserver.com> ,
jack <jack[at]yahoo.org> wrote:
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> Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
> 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.
> I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting
> about $1,000 in rebates.
> Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.


A reduction, so long as the effective price doesn't drop below $0 (in
which case the rest is income).

Seth

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Old 09-22-2008, 09:08 PM
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On Sep 22, 1:38�pm, "jack" <j...[at]yahoo.org> wrote:
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> <removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:542e9358-a2cc-4e98-9d23-9524b7ca3761[at]a18g2000pra.googlegroups.com...> On Sep 22, 7:54 am, "jack" <j...[at]yahoo.org> wrote:
> > > Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a �rebate
> > > of
> > > 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.

> > Rebates are not taxable income at the personal level. �Did you use any
> > or all part of the software for business?

> Your question makes me wonder if I was clear enough. �No software was
> involved. �I bought a saw, a lathe, and a jointer; none were Microsoft
> products (obviously). �Anything on eBay was eligible (subject to a few
> contraints); so it was more like a gift than a reduction in price since MS
> didn't get any of my money.


Even if you consider this rebate as a GIFT, the nontaxability still
applies. Gifts are not income.

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Old 09-22-2008, 08:38 PM
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<removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 22, 7:54 am, "jack" <j...[at]yahoo.org> wrote:
> > Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate
> > of
> > 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.

> Rebates are not taxable income at the personal level. Did you use any
> or all part of the software for business?

Your question makes me wonder if I was clear enough. No software was
involved. I bought a saw, a lathe, and a jointer; none were Microsoft
products (obviously). Anything on eBay was eligible (subject to a few
contraints); so it was more like a gift than a reduction in price since MS
didn't get any of my money.

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Old 09-22-2008, 07:51 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"Rick" <rick[at]nospam.com> wrote
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> What about a situation where a pharmacy offers a $25 gift card if you
> transfer a prescription from another pharmacy. For example, I can
> transfer a prescription from another pharmacy that would normally cost,
> say, $10. I still have to pay the $10 to the new pharmacy, but the
> pharmacy then gives me a free $25 gift card to use on a future purchase.
> The question I have is can I still deduct the $10 cost of the prescription
> as a medical expense and do I have to report the $25 gift card as income?




That sounds like income. This is based on the gift card being accepted
off-site at a competitor store, for groceries, or beer.

I might think differently is it's an in-store card, as that would be a
discount off future business with them. Just like those places where you
buy 12 subs and get the 13th sub for free.





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Watkinsville, Georgia

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Old 09-22-2008, 07:12 PM
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"joe taxpayer" <joetaxpayer[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
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> jack wrote:
> > Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate
> > of 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with
> > Paypall.
> > > I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting

> > about $1,000 in rebates.
> > > Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.

> The way this is treated is the same as a discount. When you deposit funds
> at a bank to get a free iPod, the value is part of income, as interest on
> the account would be. But as you suggest, this refund is just a cost
> reduction.
> Joe
> --



What about a situation where a pharmacy offers a $25 gift card if you
transfer a prescription from another pharmacy. For example, I can transfer
a prescription from another pharmacy that would normally cost, say, $10. I
still have to pay the $10 to the new pharmacy, but the pharmacy then gives
me a free $25 gift card to use on a future purchase. The question I have is
can I still deduct the $10 cost of the prescription as a medical expense and
do I have to report the $25 gift card as income?

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Old 09-22-2008, 04:20 PM
Phil Marti
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"jack" wrote:

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> Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
> 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.
> I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting
> about $1,000 in rebates.
> Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.


The latter. See IRS Publication 525.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 09-22-2008, 04:19 PM
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On Sep 22, 7:54 am, "jack" <j...[at]yahoo.org> wrote:

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> Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
> 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.


Rebates are not taxable income at the personal level. Did you use any
or all part of the software for business?

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Old 09-22-2008, 04:15 PM
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jack wrote:
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> Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
> 25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.
> I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting
> about $1,000 in rebates.
> Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.


The way this is treated is the same as a discount. When you deposit
funds at a bank to get a free iPod, the value is part of income, as
interest on the account would be. But as you suggest, this refund is
just a cost reduction.

Joe

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Old 09-22-2008, 02:54 PM
jack
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Default Rebates count as income?

Microsoft ran a rather odd program where they would issue you a rebate of
25% for anything bought on "buy it now" ebay, and paid for with Paypall.

I took full advanage of it and I (well, me, my wife and son) are getting
about $1,000 in rebates.

Is it income, or simply a reduction in what I paid for the stuff.

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