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Old 07-31-2008, 06:00 PM
Mark Bole
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Brew1 wrote:

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> You will be subject to new rules if the house does not sell this
> year. As of Jan 1, 2009,
> you will have to calculate, as a percentage, the usage of the house.
> For example, if you owned
> the house for 4 years and it was a rental for 2 years, 50% of the gain
> would NOT be excluded.


It looks like this was proposed at one point as part of last year's
Mortgage Debt Forgiveness Relief Act, but didn't make the final version.

In addition to the exceptions previously posted, only non-qualified use
*before* use as a primary residence is ineligible for the section 121
exclusion. So if you buy the house first to live in, then move out and
rent it, that wouldn't count against you.

Also, the gain due to "recaptured" depreciation doesn't enter into the
calculation.

-Mark Bole

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Old 07-31-2008, 05:49 PM
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Brew1 wrote:
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> On Jul 30, 11:16 pm, "inky dink" <isi...[at]skl.not> wrote:
> > I thought I would start a new thread, since this question is best not buried
> > in another.
> > > If I have a rental house and have been claiming depreciation, and then stop

> > renting the house and use it as my personal residence for at least 2 years,
> > and then sell it and wish to claim the homeowners exemption:
> > > then, is the lowered basis due to the depreciation subject to recapture, or

> > can that be used as part of the exemption amount?
> > > thanks.
> > > You will be subject to new rules if the house does not sell this

> year. As of Jan 1, 2009,
> you will have to calculate, as a percentage, the usage of the house.
> For example, if you owned
> the house for 4 years and it was a rental for 2 years, 50% of the gain
> would NOT be excluded.

This provision is one of the offsets in the Housing Bill. CCH
Briefing has the best explanation of the provision. It starts on
page 6 of the below link. Note, that this provision not only
doesn't start until a 2009 sale, it also does not count pre-2009
nonqualifying use.
http://tax.cchgroup.com/legislation/...stance-Act.pdf

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:33 PM
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On Jul 31, 10:22*am, joetaxpayer <joetaxpa...[at]nospam.com> wrote:
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> Brew1 wrote:
> > You will be subject to new rules if the house does not sell this
> > year. *As of Jan 1, 2009,
> > you will have to calculate, as a percentage, the usage of the house.
> > For example, if you owned
> > the house for 4 years and it was a rental for 2 years, 50% of the gain
> > would NOT be excluded.

> This is a new one. When did this new rule come into being?
> Joe

couple of days ago, with the Housing and Recovery Act of 2008

http://activerain.com/blogsview/6176...e-Exclusion-on

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Old 07-31-2008, 02:22 PM
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Brew1 wrote:

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> You will be subject to new rules if the house does not sell this
> year. As of Jan 1, 2009,
> you will have to calculate, as a percentage, the usage of the house.
> For example, if you owned
> the house for 4 years and it was a rental for 2 years, 50% of the gain
> would NOT be excluded.


This is a new one. When did this new rule come into being?
Joe

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Old 07-31-2008, 01:31 PM
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On Jul 30, 11:16*pm, "inky dink" <isi...[at]skl.not> wrote:
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> I thought I would start a new thread, since this question is best not buried
> in another.
> If I have a rental house and have been claiming depreciation, and then stop
> renting the house and use it as my personal residence for at least 2 years,
> and then sell it and wish to claim the homeowners exemption:
> then, is the lowered basis due to the depreciation subject to recapture, or
> can that be used as part of the exemption amount?
> thanks.

You will be subject to new rules if the house does not sell this
year. As of Jan 1, 2009,
you will have to calculate, as a percentage, the usage of the house.
For example, if you owned
the house for 4 years and it was a rental for 2 years, 50% of the gain
would NOT be excluded.

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:52 AM
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"inky dink" <isisis[at]skl.not> wrote in message
news:X%8kk.141332$102.6103[at]bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
- quote -

> I thought I would start a new thread, since this question is best not
buried
> in another.
> If I have a rental house and have been claiming depreciation, and then

stop
> renting the house and use it as my personal residence for at least 2

years,
> and then sell it and wish to claim the homeowners exemption:
> then, is the lowered basis due to the depreciation subject to recapture,

or
> can that be used as part of the exemption amount?


Depreciation (after May 1997) recapture may NOT be excluded. Everything
else can be.

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Old 07-31-2008, 03:16 AM
inky dink
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Default depreciation recapture and the homeowners exemption

I thought I would start a new thread, since this question is best not buried
in another.

If I have a rental house and have been claiming depreciation, and then stop
renting the house and use it as my personal residence for at least 2 years,
and then sell it and wish to claim the homeowners exemption:

then, is the lowered basis due to the depreciation subject to recapture, or
can that be used as part of the exemption amount?

thanks.

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