On Jul 1, 12:05*am, Katie <katiej_1...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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Yeah, it would be intesting to know the specific "missed" deductions
being talked about.

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On Jun 16, 9:12*pm, Ralph <daytonohi...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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An amended return claiming a refund of overpaid taxes must be filed by
the later of (1) 3 years from the date the return was filed or (2) 2
years from the date the tax was paid. The statute for claims on the
2004 return expires 3 years from the date the original return was
filed, sometime between April 15 and October 15, 2008 if it was a
timely filed return. IRC Sec. 6511(a).

So file the 2004 claim first, if the statute is still open. But watch
out -- are the "missed" deductions this H&R Block person identified
really valid? Will Block refund the preparation fees if the claim is
denied?

Katie in San Diego

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Ralph wrote:
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Strictly as a practical matter, with software (self-prepared or
commercial) it is always easier and better to start with the oldest
return and work forward, to take advantage of automated carryover of
information.

In order to perform the "review", was a return actually created using HR
Block software, or was it just a desk review of the printed output? If
the former, then I don't see what the problem is. For any preparer,
obviously the best thing for them is to do *all* of your returns, so why
not just offer a complete package including prior and 2007?

Shopping around helps keep all preparers on their toes; however by using
what is now your third different preparer in almost as many years, you
are giving yourself an uphill battle when it comes to consistency and
thoroughness.

-Mark Bole

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In article <8f9fcbfa-0599-40d9-9a02-c8e1530a35d3[at]34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> ,
<0b3hks001[at]sneakemail.com> wrote:
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If the time limit is 3 years after the return was due, then yes.

Actually, you can always amend a return; the limit is on amending to
lower your taxes and actually getting the refund.

Seth

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On Jun 19, 10:29 pm, se...[at]panix.com (Seth) wrote:
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You mean that if one filed for an extension for 2004; but actually
filed the 2004 Return by April 15, then that person has until Aug/
Oct(?) to amend his 2004 Return?

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In article <62628f2e-7aea-4aad-adc2-097fd96c35e8[at]c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com> ,
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Some people automatically file for extensions, and sometimes still
manage to file by April 15.

Seth

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Ralph wrote:
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I don't know whether you filed an extension or not. But the date you
filed 2004 should be on the Return itself, so she didn't need to ask.

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In article <94766248-1f76-44a2-960f-34d77a36aabd[at]2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com> ,
Ralph <daytonohio10[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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It can be amended. That might or might not help you.

You can amend your 2000 return now, if you see a reason to. It could
help you; for instance, if you have a large capital loss, you
wouldn't get the benefit of the $3000 deduction against ordinary
income for 2000 through 2004 (maybe 2004 if you had an extension), but
you'd still get it for 2005 and on.

Likewise with other carryforwards.

Seth

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"Ralph" <daytonohio10[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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I am curious what deductible expenses were missing, and how she became aware
of them (and why your CPA missed them, or consciously decided not to include
them).

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On Jun 17, 12:18*am, "removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com" <removeps-
gro...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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Thank you all for your replies. I don't have time for anything but a
very short reply at the moment.

The $49 fee only applies to the review of the 3 previous tax returns.
The amended returns are quite a bit more.

But, regarding filing an amendment for 2004: I was a bit surprised
that a return that old could be amended, but I thought, "surely the HR
Block tax preparer knows the rules about filing amended tax rerturns.
Finding errors and amending returns is the purpose of the review of
previous tax returns. That's why I'm here!".

Also, she never mentioned the economic stimulus to me. I am well
aware of it, but that never came up. So that was not a reason given.
In fact, since she did not have a good reason, I felt like she was
merely trying to "capture" work that she preferred, or was in some way
to her own advantage.

The fact that she never asked me when I filed 2004 or if I filed an
extension for 2004, does not give me much confidence in that tax
preparer.....

Again, thanks to everyone for taking the time to reply.

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On Jun 16, 9:12 pm, Ralph <daytonohi...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Maybe. In order to receive the stimulus check sooner, one should file
the 2007 return as early as possible. If only deductible expenses
were missing in the prior year return, then the order in which they do
the returns does not matter. By contrast, if the capital loss
carryover changed in 2004, then 2005 and all later years would have to
be amended so it makes sense to do the 2004 amended return first.
They might want to do the 2007 return first simply to bill you for it,
as $49 probably won't cover their labor for the amended returns.
There's a possibility you may just do the amended returns for $49 and
do the 2007 return on your own.

But a 2004 return is typically due on April 15 2005, and the statute
of limitations to amend it is (usually) 3 years, so until April 15
2008 you can amend it. But today is June 2008.

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In article <4529b1b7-d9ce-4db9-9f48-abc7fd3c56b4[at]k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com> ,
Ralph <daytonohio10[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Is Block tellng you that you can receive a refund by amending
your 2004 return?


If so, did you get an extension to file your 2004 return? When was it filed?
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Ralph <daytonohio10[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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Not to me.

Dick

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I noticed that HR Block had a deal to review 3 previous tax return for
only $49. So, I brought in 2006, 2005, and 2004 (my 07 is not done
yet). I’ve used 2 CPA’s for taxes for the last 3 tax years.

I met with the HR Block tax advisor today. She found that deductible
expenses had not been included by my CPA in two tax years. She found
that deductible expenses were missing from both the 2004 and 2006
return. So she recommended an amended tax return for 2004 and 2006.
I agreed .

She also has offered to prepare my 2007 return, (for which I filed an
extension back in April). I suggested that we *first* amend the 2004
and 2006 returns, so that we’ll know how it may affect the 2007 tax
liability. (I don’t expect I’ll owe anything for 2007. In fact, my
06 return resulted in a refund of approx 11K, which I elected to carry
forward to 2007. I expect I’ll have a refund in 2007).

She strongly recommended that we do the prepare the 2007 return first,
then amend the 04 and 06 returns.

That seemed odd to me. Both of these amended returns for 2004 and
2006 will result in a lower tax liability. It seemed odd to me. I
got the feeling that she simply wanted to get her hands on the 2007
tax return, and that the 2004 and 2006 were not as important to her.

Does it make sense to prepare and submit the 2007 tax return before
amending the 04 and 06 returns, or is it really better to complete the
2007 tax return first?

Thanks.

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