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Old 06-22-2008, 02:44 PM
Tom
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"Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Tom" wrote:
> > > That separate 5 year period for conversions is pertinent only when the
> > > premature distribution penalty is in play. Since OP is over 59 1/2,
> > > it's moot.
> > > > > All distributions from OP's Roth will be "qualified," thus zero tax or
> > > penalty.
> > > Say I deposit $5K in that ROTH account in '08 when can I withdraw profits

> > from that $5K w/o penalty?

> The next day. This is the same answer you've been given at least three
> times. Instead of just asking it over and over, sit down with Publication
> 590 and verify. It's remarkedly straightforward when you're over 59 1/2
> and have had a Roth for 5 years, but if there's something you don't
> understand, come back with a specific reference and explanation of what's
> troubling you.


I read in an online ROTH\IRA link the clock starts ticking again when the
$5K is added to the ROTH.
I'll read the publication again.

========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
The five-year conversion clock is moot since, as noted above,
taxpayer is 59 1/2.

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Old 06-21-2008, 08:59 PM
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"Tom" wrote:

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> > That separate 5 year period for conversions is pertinent only when the
> > premature distribution penalty is in play. Since OP is over 59 1/2, it's
> > moot.
> > > All distributions from OP's Roth will be "qualified," thus zero tax or

> > penalty.

> Say I deposit $5K in that ROTH account in '08 when can I withdraw profits
> from that $5K w/o penalty?


The next day. This is the same answer you've been given at least three
times. Instead of just asking it over and over, sit down with Publication
590 and verify. It's remarkedly straightforward when you're over 59 1/2 and
have had a Roth for 5 years, but if there's something you don't understand,
come back with a specific reference and explanation of what's troubling you.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 06-19-2008, 04:28 AM
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"Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Alan" wrote:
> > > I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this
> > > year when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o
> > > penalty? I'm 63 years old.

> > If my arithmetic is right, you could have started taking it out as
> > qualified distributions after you turned age 59 1/2 in 2004. This answer
> > assumes you have not created a separate five year period for a Roth IRA
> > conversion after 2003.

> That separate 5 year period for conversions is pertinent only when the
> premature distribution penalty is in play. Since OP is over 59 1/2, it's
> moot.
> All distributions from OP's Roth will be "qualified," thus zero tax or
> penalty.


Say I deposit $5K in that ROTH account in '08 when can I withdraw profits
from that $5K w/o penalty?

Tom

========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT:
Since OP is 63, a Roth distribution is without penalty.

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Old 06-19-2008, 04:27 AM
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"Alan" <sfcnm-mtm[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
> > I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this
> > year when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o
> > penalty? I'm 63 years old.
> > > Thanks,
> > > tom

> If my arithmetic is right, you could have started taking it out as
> qualified distributions after you turned age 59 1/2 in 2004. This answer
> assumes you have not created a separate five year period for a Roth IRA
> conversion after 2003.

I was going to convert my '07 $5K after tax IRA to my ROTH account but
decided it will complicate my ROTH account too much.

Tom

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Old 06-17-2008, 08:52 AM
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"Alan" wrote:

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> > I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this
> > year when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o
> > penalty? I'm 63 years old.


> If my arithmetic is right, you could have started taking it out as
> qualified distributions after you turned age 59 1/2 in 2004. This answer
> assumes you have not created a separate five year period for a Roth IRA
> conversion after 2003.


That separate 5 year period for conversions is pertinent only when the
premature distribution penalty is in play. Since OP is over 59 1/2, it's
moot.

All distributions from OP's Roth will be "qualified," thus zero tax or
penalty.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 06-17-2008, 05:11 AM
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On Jun 16, 8:18 pm, Rich Carreiro <rlc-n...[at]rlcarr.com> wrote:
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> "Tom" <ya...[at]earthlink.com> writes:

> > I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this year
> > when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o penalty? I'm
> > 63 years old.

> Now.
> Once you were both (a) 59.5 years old and (b) had a Roth IRA account
> for at least five years, all Roth withdrawals are qualified and no
> penalties early withdrawal or conversion penalties apply.


Can you withdraw your contribution/principal any time without penalty?

Also, publication 590 lists cases where you can withdraw before age
59.5 without penalty?

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p590/ch02.html#d0e10519

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Old 06-17-2008, 03:18 AM
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"Tom" <yahoo[at]earthlink.com> writes:

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> I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this year
> when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o penalty? I'm
> 63 years old.


Now.

Once you were both (a) 59.5 years old and (b) had a Roth IRA account
for at least five years, all Roth withdrawals are qualified and no
penalties early withdrawal or conversion penalties apply.

--
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Old 06-17-2008, 03:00 AM
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Tom wrote:
- quote -

> I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this year
> when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o penalty? I'm
> 63 years old.
> Thanks,
> tom

If my arithmetic is right, you could have started taking it out
as qualified distributions after you turned age 59 1/2 in 2004.
This answer assumes you have not created a separate five year
period for a Roth IRA conversion after 2003.

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:20 AM
Tom
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Default Getting Conflicting Information Re: ROTH IRA account

I opened a ROTH IRA in 1999 if I make desposits into that account this year
when can I withdraw profits from the 2008 ROTH contribution w/o penalty? I'm
63 years old.

Thanks,

tom

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