Go Back   CDN Business Directory > Main Category > Taxes

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #6  
Old 05-25-2008, 10:20 PM
Barry Margolin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

In article <gAf_j.2376$xZ.299[at]nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> ,
Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote:

- quote -

> Vic Dura wrote:
> [...]
> > > Where did you find the term "total dividends?"
> > > It's from my mother in laws trust as follows:
> > > Grantor Tax Information Letter
> > > Income:

> > Dividend Income:
> > Qualified ....
> > Total for year .....

> I thought the whole purpose of precisely numbered boxes on tax forms was
> to avoid this type of confusion.
> Shouldn't the trust be reporting this on a Schedule K-1 (Form 1041) to
> avoid any confusion and ambiguity?


It sounds like this is a statement separate from the tax documents that
the IRS requires. The IRS doesn't regulate documents like these. The
SEC has some rules for mutual funds, to make it easier to compare funds,
but I doubt they apply to trusts.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #5  
Old 05-25-2008, 08:34 PM
Gil Faver
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total


"Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message
news:g1a2g3$s6o$1[at]reader2.panix.com...
- quote -

> In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> ,
> Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
> > "Vic Dura" wrote:
> > > > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
> > > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
> > > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that
> > > > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary
> > > > > is that correct?
> > > No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends.

> Correct.
> Where did you find the term "total dividends?"
> It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should
> be strung up, along with those fund managers who report the
> short-term capital gains paid by the fund :-(


it is no more misleading than, say, "tax simplification act"

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #4  
Old 05-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Mark Bole
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

Vic Dura wrote:
[...]
- quote -

> > Where did you find the term "total dividends?"
> It's from my mother in laws trust as follows:
> Grantor Tax Information Letter
> Income:
> Dividend Income:
> Qualified ....
> Total for year .....


I thought the whole purpose of precisely numbered boxes on tax forms was
to avoid this type of confusion.

Shouldn't the trust be reporting this on a Schedule K-1 (Form 1041) to
avoid any confusion and ambiguity?

-Mark Bole

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #3  
Old 05-25-2008, 01:04 AM
Vic Dura
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

On Sat, 24 May 2008 17:49:07 EDT, kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet)
wrote Re Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total:

- quote -

> In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> ,
> Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
> > "Vic Dura" wrote:
> > > > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
> > > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
> > > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that
> > > > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary
> > > > > is that correct?
> > > No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends.

> Correct.
> Where did you find the term "total dividends?"


It's from my mother in laws trust as follows:

Grantor Tax Information Letter

Income:
Dividend Income:
Qualified ....
Total for year .....


- quote -

> It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should
> be strung up,


It is indeed a confusing document to read.

Thanks for the comments Art, and thanks also to Bill Brown and Phil
Marti for their comments.

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #2  
Old 05-24-2008, 09:49 PM
Arthur Kamlet
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> ,
Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote:
- quote -

> "Vic Dura" wrote:
> > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
> > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
> > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that
> > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary
> > > is that correct?

> No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends.



Correct.

Where did you find the term "total dividends?"

It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should
be strung up, along with those fund managers who report the
short-term capital gains paid by the fund :-(

Qualified dividends are those dividends which tentatively qualify
for a lower tax rate than non-qualified dividends.

So qualified dividends can be zero, or as much as ordinary dividends,
or anywhere in-between.
--


ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #1  
Old 05-24-2008, 04:36 PM
Phil Marti
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

"Vic Dura" wrote:

- quote -

> I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
> "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
> sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that
> Total = Qualified + Ordinary
> is that correct?


No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 
Old 05-24-2008, 03:44 PM
Bill Brown
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Divs: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

On May 24, 10:31*am, Vic Dura <vpd...[at]hiwaay.net> wrote:
- quote -

> Hello all,
> I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
> "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
> sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that
> Total = Qualified + Ordinary
> is that correct?


I believe not. I believe Total = Ordinary.

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
  #-1  
Old 05-24-2008, 02:31 PM
Vic Dura
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Divs: Ordinary, Qualified, Total

Hello all,

I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
"Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different
sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that

Total = Qualified + Ordinary

is that correct?

Thanks

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 

Tags
divs, ordinary, qualified, total
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
Ordinary and Qualified Dividends?
Zigball: Can someone please explain to me what are Ordinary and Qualified Dividends? I think that the qualified dividends are the ones that are taxed on a...
Taxes 12 04-12-2008 12:04 AM
Foreign Tax Credit on divs
scott s.: A couple questions on reporting foreign taxes on dividends. 1. the brokerage acct reports a total foreign tax on the 1099-Div. About 30% is from...
Taxes 2 03-27-2007 04:15 AM
1099-DIV - Confused about Ordinary Dividend vs. Qualified Dividend on 1040
Cardinal24: I have a few shares of Reuters ADR. They sent me a 1099-DIV. Box 1a has $89.44 (Ordinary dividends). However, Box 1b has $89.44 (Qualified...
Taxes 5 06-02-2006 05:56 AM
Ordinary versus Qualified
John: I receved my 1099-DIV and it lists say $200 as Qualified Dividends and has this amount in box 1b. I do not see anything about a box 1a for...
Taxes 2 02-17-2004 09:50 PM
Question about qualified versus ordinary dividends
David Martin: I recently received my 1099-DIV from my broker and noticed that the brokerage company has divided my dividends into qualified and ordinary...
Taxes 2 02-03-2004 05:03 AM



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:31 PM.