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| In article <gAf_j.2376$xZ.299[at]nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com> , Mark Bole <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote: - quote - > Vic Dura wrote:
It sounds like this is a statement separate from the tax documents that> [...] > > > Where did you find the term "total dividends?" > > > It's from my mother in laws trust as follows: > > > Grantor Tax Information Letter > > > Income: > > Dividend Income: > > Qualified .... > > Total for year ..... > I thought the whole purpose of precisely numbered boxes on tax forms was > to avoid this type of confusion. > Shouldn't the trust be reporting this on a Schedule K-1 (Form 1041) to > avoid any confusion and ambiguity? the IRS requires. The IRS doesn't regulate documents like these. The SEC has some rules for mutual funds, to make it easier to compare funds, but I doubt they apply to trusts. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Arthur Kamlet" <kamlet[at]panix.com> wrote in message news:g1a2g3$s6o$1[at]reader2.panix.com... - quote - > In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> ,
it is no more misleading than, say, "tax simplification act"> Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: > > "Vic Dura" wrote: > > > > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show > > > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different > > > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that > > > > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary > > > > > is that correct? > > > No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends. > Correct. > Where did you find the term "total dividends?" > It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should > be strung up, along with those fund managers who report the > short-term capital gains paid by the fund :-( -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Vic Dura wrote: [...] - quote - > > Where did you find the term "total dividends?"
I thought the whole purpose of precisely numbered boxes on tax forms was> It's from my mother in laws trust as follows: > Grantor Tax Information Letter > Income: > Dividend Income: > Qualified .... > Total for year ..... to avoid this type of confusion. Shouldn't the trust be reporting this on a Schedule K-1 (Form 1041) to avoid any confusion and ambiguity? -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Sat, 24 May 2008 17:49:07 EDT, kamlet[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote Re Re: Ordinary, Qualified, Total: - quote - > In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> ,
It's from my mother in laws trust as follows:> Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: > > "Vic Dura" wrote: > > > > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show > > > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different > > > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that > > > > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary > > > > > is that correct? > > > No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends. > Correct. > Where did you find the term "total dividends?" Grantor Tax Information Letter Income: Dividend Income: Qualified .... Total for year ..... - quote - > It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should
It is indeed a confusing document to read.> be strung up, Thanks for the comments Art, and thanks also to Bill Brown and Phil Marti for their comments. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <ptXZj.7862$3j.2092[at]trnddc05> , Phil Marti <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Vic Dura" wrote: > > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show > > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different > > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that > > > Total = Qualified + Ordinary > > > is that correct? > No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends. Correct. Where did you find the term "total dividends?" It is a very misleading term, and if a payer used it, they should be strung up, along with those fund managers who report the short-term capital gains paid by the fund :-( Qualified dividends are those dividends which tentatively qualify for a lower tax rate than non-qualified dividends. So qualified dividends can be zero, or as much as ordinary dividends, or anywhere in-between. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Vic Dura" wrote: - quote - > I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show
No. Qualified dividends are a subset of ordinary dividends.> "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that > Total = Qualified + Ordinary > is that correct? -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On May 24, 10:31*am, Vic Dura <vpd...[at]hiwaay.net> wrote: - quote - > Hello all,
I believe not. I believe Total = Ordinary.> I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show > "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different > sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that > Total = Qualified + Ordinary > is that correct? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Hello all, I've noticed that some end-of-year dividend tax reports show "Qualified" and "Total" dividends. Other reports from different sources show "Qualified" and "Ordinary" dividends. I assume that Total = Qualified + Ordinary is that correct? Thanks -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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