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Old 05-28-2008, 02:19 AM
Katie
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On May 24, 7:30*am, Guillermo el Gato <devn...[at]example.com> wrote:
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> Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
> I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
> a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed. *
> Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my
> question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
> as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
> mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
> together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
> gross income?



No objection to the name. Bill the Cat is one of my favorite
characters. Ack!

Katie in San Diego

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Old 05-25-2008, 08:35 PM
davidrosenbaum@gmail.com
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On May 25, 3:00*am, L K Williams <la...[at]loxinfo.co.th> wrote:
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> On Sat, 24 May 2008 10:30:57 EDT, Guillermo el Gato
> <devn...[at]example.com> wrote:
> > Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
> > I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
> > a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed. *
> > Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my
> > question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
> > as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
> > mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
> > together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
> > gross income?
> > Many thanks!

> Just because you live and work overseas doesn't let you file your
> taxes different. *You can claim the exclusion on Form 2555 and the tax
> credit on Form 1116 and you get an automatic extension to June 15 but
> that's about it. *Except for those things, your tax return should look
> much as it did when you were in the US.

And don't forget about the self-employment tax - as I understand it,
unless your country has a binationalization treaty with US Social
Security, you may end up paying self-employment tax to the US, even
though you may be exempt from income tax due to the exclusion or
credit.

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Old 05-25-2008, 08:34 PM
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 20:00:30 EDT, L K Williams <lanny[at]loxinfo.co.thwrote:

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> On Sat, 24 May 2008 10:30:57 EDT, Guillermo el Gato
> <devnull[at]example.com> wrote:
> > Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
> > I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
> > a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed.
> > > Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my

> > question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
> > as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
> > mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
> > together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
> > gross income?
> > > Many thanks!

> Just because you live and work overseas doesn't let you file your
> taxes different. You can claim the exclusion on Form 2555 and the tax
> credit on Form 1116 and you get an automatic extension to June 15 but
> that's about it. Except for those things, your tax return should look
> much as it did when you were in the US.


That's what I was afraid of.

It does seem silly all this km to miles conversions and the like,
doesn't it?
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:00 AM
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 10:30:57 EDT, Guillermo el Gato
<devnull[at]example.com> wrote:

- quote -

> Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
> I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
> a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed.
> Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my
> question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
> as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
> mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
> together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
> gross income?
> Many thanks!



Just because you live and work overseas doesn't let you file your
taxes different. You can claim the exclusion on Form 2555 and the tax
credit on Form 1116 and you get an automatic extension to June 15 but
that's about it. Except for those things, your tax return should look
much as it did when you were in the US.

Lanny K. Williams, CPA
Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd.
Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans

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Old 05-24-2008, 11:19 PM
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"Guillermo el Gato" <devnull[at]example.com> wrote in message
news:rnuf34ppm6ven2tkjl4c6237c526ub2o23[at]4ax.com...
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> Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
> I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
> a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed.
> Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my
> question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
> as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
> mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
> together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
> gross income?


Yes. Schedule C or F, just as if you were in the U.S.

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Old 05-24-2008, 02:30 PM
Guillermo el Gato
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Default Overseas Taxes

Hi, (forgive the sorta anonymous name)
I (a US Citizen) live overseas and my spouse (also a US Citizen) works
a normal job for a company here, and I'm self-employed.

Filling out her taxes is relatively straight-forward, however, my
question is about my taxes. Do I have to fill out the business forms
as if I had my business in the US (listing all expenses and so on,
mileage and whatever) or is it enough to say that we earned $X
together overseas and that's the value that should be used as the
gross income?

Many thanks!

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