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Old 05-22-2008, 02:34 PM
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On May 21, 6:59 pm, Herb Smith <smithf...[at]aol.com> wrote:
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> On May 21, 9:46�am, "removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com" <removeps-
> > On May 20, 8:20 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:


> > > I concur with the above - with one exception: �Tax Treaties. �Some treaties
> > > give credit to the other country's system under certain circumstances.

> > Is there such a feature between US and Canada?

> Definitely. Just check the IRS website athttp://www.irs.govfor the
> relevant publication.


I looked at publication 597, even before posting, but it doesn't talk
about credit between countries for social security taxes. It only
talks about social security benefits from Canada, that they are
taxable in the US only for US residents (and I imagine US social
security benefits are taxable in Canada only if a Canadian resident).
If you want your US social security taxes to be sent to Canada and add
to your Canadian credits, there must be some form to fill out.

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Old 05-22-2008, 03:55 AM
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> The SS agency does not mail benefit checks
> outside the US. But in this era of global banking, thats a non-issue.


See: "Your Payments While You Are Outside The United States"

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10137.html#countries


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Old 05-22-2008, 01:59 AM
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On May 21, 9:46�am, "removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com" <removeps-
gro...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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> On May 20, 8:20 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
> > I concur with the above - with one exception: �Tax Treaties. �Some treaties
> > give credit to the other country's system under certain circumstances.

> Is there such a feature between US and Canada?


Definitely. Just check the IRS website at http://www.irs.gov for the
relevant publication.

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Old 05-21-2008, 05:20 PM
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On May 19, 10:33 pm, My interest <myinter...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> For a non-US citizen, is he still eligible for SSN benefit if he
> retires overseas after made 10 years SSN payment?


You dont have to be a citizen to qualify for US social security
benefits,
just have paid the taxes. The SS agency does not mail benefit checks
outside the US. But in this era of global banking, thats a non-issue.

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Old 05-21-2008, 04:46 PM
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On May 20, 8:20 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

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> I concur with the above - with one exception: Tax Treaties. Some treaties
> give credit to the other country's system under certain circumstances.


Is there such a feature between US and Canada?

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Old 05-21-2008, 03:20 AM
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"Condor" <Condor[at]loosecannon.net> wrote in message
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> > I was told that one can claim SSN payment refund if he declares that
> > he will not receive US SSN benefit (by signing some statements to
> > IRS). But I cannot find such info on IRS website. Can anyone either
> > confirm or reject this claim?

> The social security tax is non-refundable. If a foreign national pays the
> tax, but is later ineligible for benefits, a refund is unavailable.


I concur with the above - with one exception: Tax Treaties. Some treaties
give credit to the other country's system under certain circumstances.

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Old 05-20-2008, 03:24 PM
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My interest wrote:
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> For a non-US citizen, is he still eligible for SSN benefit if he
> retires overseas after made 10 years SSN payment?
> I was told that one can claim SSN payment refund if he declares that
> he will not receive US SSN benefit (by signing some statements to
> IRS). But I cannot find such info on IRS website. Can anyone either
> confirm or reject this claim?
> Thanks.


Andy comments:

I suggest you call the SS office -- there will be a toll-free
contact
number on the website www.ssa.gov .

A local office may be able to help, but the website contact
people are probly more used to a wider varietyy of inquiries.

I have used it in the past, and found the personnel there to be
very helpful. Good luck.

Andy in Eureka, Texas

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Old 05-20-2008, 03:23 PM
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> I was told that one can claim SSN payment refund if he declares that
> he will not receive US SSN benefit (by signing some statements to
> IRS). But I cannot find such info on IRS website. Can anyone either
> confirm or reject this claim?


The social security tax is non-refundable. If a foreign national pays the
tax, but is later ineligible for benefits, a refund is unavailable.

See:
The ABC's Of Immigration - Understanding Social Security Tax, Totalization
Agreements and Your Benefits, by Steven Weiser

http://www.visalaw.com/03jul2/2jul203.html


Condor

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Old 05-20-2008, 04:33 AM
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Default question about SSN

For a non-US citizen, is he still eligible for SSN benefit if he
retires overseas after made 10 years SSN payment?


I was told that one can claim SSN payment refund if he declares that
he will not receive US SSN benefit (by signing some statements to
IRS). But I cannot find such info on IRS website. Can anyone either
confirm or reject this claim?

Thanks.

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