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Old 04-09-2008, 04:59 AM
Katie
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On Apr 8, 8:28*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "Katie" wrote:
> > The transfer tax (and other purchase costs, such as appraisal fees,
> > escrow fees, etc.) is added to the amount you paid for the property to
> > calculate your basis in it.

> This needs to be tweaked a bit. *Appraisals and other costs of getting a
> loan are not part of basis. *They're just additional costs that have no tax
> effect now or later. *See IRS Publication 551.
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> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD



Well, there I go shooting from the hip again *sigh*. A bad example.
Thanks for the catch, Phil.

Katie

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Old 04-09-2008, 03:28 AM
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"Katie" wrote:

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> The transfer tax (and other purchase costs, such as appraisal fees,
> escrow fees, etc.) is added to the amount you paid for the property to
> calculate your basis in it.


This needs to be tweaked a bit. Appraisals and other costs of getting a
loan are not part of basis. They're just additional costs that have no tax
effect now or later. See IRS Publication 551.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 04-09-2008, 03:13 AM
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On Apr 8, 6:51*pm, wdwrk8...[at]gmail.com wrote:
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> On Apr 7, 9:29 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
> > No. *It adds to your basis of the home.
> > However, check line 5 IF it qualfies as a sales tax and your state income
> > tax is less.


> Thanks for the replies. *Can you elaborate on how this relates to
> "basis"?
> Washington doesn't have an income tax, so I've checked 5B (general
> sales
> tax) & used the IRS's online calculator come up with a figure to
> enter
> there. *How can I determine if the excise amount qualifies as a sales
> tax?
> Would I simply add the entire amount to the figure I got online?



No, no, no. The tax is NOT a general sales tax. It is a real
property transfer tax. Not deductible.

The transfer tax (and other purchase costs, such as appraisal fees,
escrow fees, etc.) is added to the amount you paid for the property to
calculate your basis in it. For example, if the purchase price of the
property was $100,000, and your nondeductible costs total $2,000, your
basis in the property is $102,000.

Katie in San Diego

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Old 04-09-2008, 01:51 AM
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On Apr 7, 9:29 pm, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:
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> "Dan" <n...[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Wvadnd910LkCfWfanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d[at]comcast.com...
> > We live in Washington state & purchased a new home in 2007. We paid

> several
> > thousand dollars in state Real EstateExcisetax. Can this tax be

> included
> > on line 8 of shcedule A, "Other taxes"?

> No. It adds to your basis of the home.
> However, check line 5 IF it qualfies as a sales tax and your state income
> tax is less.
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Thanks for the replies. Can you elaborate on how this relates to
"basis"?

Washington doesn't have an income tax, so I've checked 5B (general
sales
tax) & used the IRS's online calculator come up with a figure to
enter
there. How can I determine if the excise amount qualifies as a sales
tax?
Would I simply add the entire amount to the figure I got online?

Thanks!

Dan

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Old 04-08-2008, 04:29 AM
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"Dan" <none[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> We live in Washington state & purchased a new home in 2007. We paid
several
> thousand dollars in state Real Estate Excise tax. Can this tax be

included
> on line 8 of shcedule A, "Other taxes"?


No. It adds to your basis of the home.

However, check line 5 IF it qualfies as a sales tax and your state income
tax is less.

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Old 04-08-2008, 04:20 AM
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On Apr 7, 8:30*pm, "Dan" <n...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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> We live in Washington state & purchased a new home in 2007. *We paid several
> thousand dollars in state Real Estate Excise tax. *Can this tax be included
> on line 8 of shcedule A, *"Other taxes"?
> TIA




No. It's a real estate transfer tax, not deductible under Sec. 164.
Add it to the basis of the property.

Katie in San Diego

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Old 04-08-2008, 03:30 AM
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Default Deductibility of state real estate excise tax

We live in Washington state & purchased a new home in 2007. We paid several
thousand dollars in state Real Estate Excise tax. Can this tax be included
on line 8 of shcedule A, "Other taxes"?

TIA

Dan

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