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| Haskel LaPort wrote: - quote - > "Harlan Lunsford" <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
Doesn't matter a whit what employer did or did not do. The major> news:aZOJj.18263$%15.9053[at]bignews7.bellsouth.net... > > Now I have to disagree with this treatment. The key to the problem is > > that although company issued the checks, they qualified them by saying > > dont cash them yet; or now; or next week, or until we tell you to. > > And they never did. > > > So when you know a check's no good, you don't have constructive > > receipt of the income. > > > One way to go would be to prepare a paper return for client listing > > only the verifiable wages on line 7, and verifiable income tax > > withheld on line ... 57 (?) with a statement attachment explaining > > reasons and the situation in full. > > > Of course if lower wages affected the EIC available..... ??? > > What would you do? > Well what would you do if the amount(s) withheld on the paycheck are > greater than the employee's actual tax liability? Did the employer file > payroll returns and remit all taxes? Does it matter from the employee's > stand point if the employer never paid the taxes? problem here is determine correct and true income with associated withholdings. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:aZOJj.18263$%15.9053[at]bignews7.bellsouth.net... - quote - > Haskel LaPort wrote:
Well what would you do if the amount(s) withheld on the paycheck are greater> > > <kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:49786da4-d68e-4589-bc1c-6794507e023f[at]c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > > If you receive a number of paychecks that you do not cash, because > > > your company has told you to hold on to them (they do not have the > > > money in the bank) and these paychecks are reported on your W-2 - how > > > do report the non-receipt of income. The company is now in bankruptcy > > > and no longer exists. > > > > > Should you report the W-2 as received and write-off the non-receipt of > > > pay as a bad debt on schedule A? > > > You would record the bad debt on schedule D as a short term loss not as > > an itemized deduction on Schedle A. > > Now I have to disagree with this treatment. The key to the problem is > that although company issued the checks, they qualified them by saying > dont cash them yet; or now; or next week, or until we tell you to. And > they never did. > So when you know a check's no good, you don't have constructive receipt of > the income. > One way to go would be to prepare a paper return for client listing only > the verifiable wages on line 7, and verifiable income tax withheld on line > ... 57 (?) with a statement attachment explaining reasons and the > situation in full. > Of course if lower wages affected the EIC available..... ??? > What would you do? than the employee's actual tax liability? Did the employer file payroll returns and remit all taxes? Does it matter from the employee's stand point if the employer never paid the taxes? - quote - > ChEAr$,
- please trim the post to which you are replying> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > > << > > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > > << are at www.asktax.org. > > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Haskel LaPort wrote: - quote - > <kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
Now I have to disagree with this treatment. The key to the problem is> news:49786da4-d68e-4589-bc1c-6794507e023f[at]c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > > If you receive a number of paychecks that you do not cash, because > > your company has told you to hold on to them (they do not have the > > money in the bank) and these paychecks are reported on your W-2 - how > > do report the non-receipt of income. The company is now in bankruptcy > > and no longer exists. > > > Should you report the W-2 as received and write-off the non-receipt of > > pay as a bad debt on schedule A? > You would record the bad debt on schedule D as a short term loss not as > an itemized deduction on Schedle A. that although company issued the checks, they qualified them by saying dont cash them yet; or now; or next week, or until we tell you to. And they never did. So when you know a check's no good, you don't have constructive receipt of the income. One way to go would be to prepare a paper return for client listing only the verifiable wages on line 7, and verifiable income tax withheld on line ... 57 (?) with a statement attachment explaining reasons and the situation in full. Of course if lower wages affected the EIC available..... ??? What would you do? ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > > your company has told you to hold on to them (they do not have the
Sounds right. I hope the person also put a claim into the bankruptcy> > money in the bank) and these paychecks are reported on your W-2 - how > > do report the non-receipt of income. The company is now in bankruptcy > > and no longer exists. > > > Should you report the W-2 as received and write-off the non-receipt of > > pay as a bad debt on schedule A? > You would record the bad debt on schedule D as a short term loss not as an > itemized deduction on Schedle A. court, since it is my impression that payroll is one of the highest priority claims. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| <kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:49786da4-d68e-4589-bc1c-6794507e023f[at]c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... - quote - > If you receive a number of paychecks that you do not cash, because
You would record the bad debt on schedule D as a short term loss not as an> your company has told you to hold on to them (they do not have the > money in the bank) and these paychecks are reported on your W-2 - how > do report the non-receipt of income. The company is now in bankruptcy > and no longer exists. > Should you report the W-2 as received and write-off the non-receipt of > pay as a bad debt on schedule A? itemized deduction on Schedle A. - quote - > --
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> << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > > << > > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > > << are at www.asktax.org. > > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > -- |
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| If you receive a number of paychecks that you do not cash, because your company has told you to hold on to them (they do not have the money in the bank) and these paychecks are reported on your W-2 - how do report the non-receipt of income. The company is now in bankruptcy and no longer exists. Should you report the W-2 as received and write-off the non-receipt of pay as a bad debt on schedule A? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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