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| On Mar 29, 12:07*am, "D. Stussy" <s...[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > "My interest" <myinter...[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
sneaky. The bank is not really passing through the benefit of lower> > > The IRS is correct here - in that home equity loans are specifically limited > > to $100k of principal for the interest to be deductible - and that's in the > > statute. Undre that, if you borrow $200k, then only 50% of your interest is > > deductible. > > > I see what you're saying in that you're trying to use the credit line as a > > substitute for acquisition debt. If that's really what you're trying to do, > > you should refinance the acquisition debt and not try to be sneaky. Also, > > it seems that such a use may violate the terms of your credit line. > Well, I want to lower my cost but I don't think I am trying to be interest rates to us as consumers. Given the 3% cut in FedFund rate, how much % mortgage rate has been cut? (Well, banks will always give you some "reasonable" technical explainations and I know what they will say - I am working in the financial industry myself). Actually I am not sure why you say it may violate the terms of my credit line. When I applied the credit line, one question on the application form was "do you intend to pay down / off your current mortgage". To me, this implies paying down mortgage is one of the possible/valid reasons to apply the credit line. - quote - > > > If you were to take the position that the equity line of credit was used for
This is indeed the reason for my original question. I am using the> > acquisition debt, I bet the IRS would fight that to the Tax Court if not > > beyond. line of credit to pay down my mortgage (i.e not playing tricks to pay for things like vacations etc). None of the IRS FAQ I found covers exactly my case. I would guess the closet example is either a refinance (can my case be treated as partially refinance by a line of credit) or may be an acquisition cost (what IRS will think if I used the line of credit to buy another house? If it has no problem with that, why do you think it should bark if I use the money to "pay" for my current house?) Thanks. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "My interest" <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:fee4aee0-4d9c-4658-9a6f-fdb0ecb4c085[at]d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... - quote - > If I borrow $200K home equity line of credit to (partially) pay down
Please don't post the same question to multiple groups.> my mortgage. Can the interest on the line of credit fully deducted? > IRS website indicates if the loan is used other than build / improve > your home, you can only deduct interest on up to $100K.loan. > So I think the answer to my question above is yes. But can anybody > either confirm or reject it? Also, what document / evidence should I > keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My interest wrote: - quote - > On Mar 28, 6:18 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...[at]spamnocox.net> wrote:
Elle's link was good, that refers you then to pub 936. See page 8,> > "My interest" <myinter...[at]gmail.com> wrote > > > > > Also, what document / evidence should I > > > keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? > > > http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw96.htmlanswers your question > > and with IRS references. > > Thanks. Are you referring to the point 3.6 on the IRS website? I > think my question, putting another way, is whether "paying down > mortgage" can be classified as "buy, build, or substantially improve > your home"? middle column, "refinanced home acquisition debt" "Any secured debt you use to refinance home acquisition debt is treated as home acquisition debt. However, the new debt will qualify as home acquisition debt only up to the amount of the balance of the old mortgage principal just before the refinancing. Any additional debt not used to buy, build, or substantially improve a qualified home is not home acquisition debt, but may qualify as home equity debt (discussed later)." I'm pretty certain this covers you. But to your point, keep a paper trail. Very simple to show a mortgage balance of $200K one day, and the other loan of $200K the next. Joe www.blog.joetaxpayer.com -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "My interest" <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > Are you referring to the point 3.6 on the IRS website? I
Yes, I am looking at point 3.6. I suggest reading all of it.> think my question, putting another way, is whether "paying > down > mortgage" can be classified as "buy, build, or > substantially improve > your home"? For HELs, it refers the reader to http://www.irs.gov/publications/p936/ar02.html#d0e2135 . Both of these note that there may be a limit to how much of the HEL's interest you may deduct. They explain the limit. My impression is that it does not matter what you use the HEL for. The bigger issue for you may be the limit I mention above. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 28, 6:18 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...[at]spamnocox.net> wrote: - quote - > "My interest" <myinter...[at]gmail.com> wrote
Thanks. Are you referring to the point 3.6 on the IRS website? I> > Also, what document / evidence should I > > keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? > http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw96.htmlanswers your question > and with IRS references. think my question, putting another way, is whether "paying down mortgage" can be classified as "buy, build, or substantially improve your home"? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > I see it as some form of a re-fi. As long as nothing is being used for
If I keep the bank record which shows the exact amount (e.g. $200K)> other purposes, like a vacation, car, boat.....then deduct away. > -- > Paul A. Thomas, CPA > Athens, Georgia being taken out from home equity account is transferred to the mortgage account. Is it a good enough evidence to show the money is indeed not used for other purpose? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "My interest" <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > Also, what document / evidence should I http://www.irs.gov/faqs/faq-kw96.html answers your question> keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? and with IRS references. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "My interest" <myinterest[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > If I borrow $200K home equity line of credit to (partially) pay down > my mortgage. Can the interest on the line of credit fully deducted? > IRS website indicates if the loan is used other than build / improve > your home, you can only deduct interest on up to $100K.loan. > So I think the answer to my question above is yes. But can anybody > either confirm or reject it? Also, what document / evidence should I > keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? I see it as some form of a re-fi. As long as nothing is being used for other purposes, like a vacation, car, boat.....then deduct away. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| If I borrow $200K home equity line of credit to (partially) pay down my mortgage. Can the interest on the line of credit fully deducted? IRS website indicates if the loan is used other than build / improve your home, you can only deduct interest on up to $100K.loan. So I think the answer to my question above is yes. But can anybody either confirm or reject it? Also, what document / evidence should I keep to fence off IRS if it challenges me on my deduction? Thanks. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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