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Old 03-27-2008, 08:45 PM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Default Re: Retained Earnings Distribution ?

nearly_blind[at]yahoo.com wrote:

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> Over the last 5 years we have accumulated a significant
> amount of retained earnings which has already been
> (corporate) taxed in prior years.
> My question is what is the most tax efficient method to
> distribute these funds to the share holders?
> 1) It seems we can just issue a "dividend" which
> would be taxed at a personal 15% rate
> (and have no tax effect on the corporation).


To me that seems like the best alternative.

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> 2) It also seems theoretically possible to turn it into a long term
> capital gain by having the corporation buy shares back at a price/
> share such that the desired funds are distributed.


Actually that won't work. If everyone starts with and ends up with
about the same corporate interest, the IRS will consider it a
dividend in any case and not a redemption.

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> Assuming 2) is kosher, it would probably not be worth the 1% tax
> rate savings because of the complication.
> However, there is a possilility that we may decide to close the
> business and cease operations in 2008. In that case it seems it
> would be clean for the corporation to buy back most of the shares
> before ceasing operation.


If the corporation buys back all of a shareholder's stock, then it
can qualify as a redemption and it's capital gain. Otherwise it is
unlikely to work.

Stu

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Old 03-27-2008, 07:45 PM
nearly_blind@yahoo.com
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Default Retained Earnings Distribution ?

I am shareholder in a C corp
that was founded 5 years. There are
4 total and founding shareholders all of which
are company officers/directors.
The original share price was some trivial amount.

Over the last 5 years we have accumulated a significant
amount of retained earnings which has already been
(corporate) taxed in prior years.

My question is what is the most tax efficient method to
distribute these funds to the share holders?

1)
It seems we can just issue a "dividend" which
would be taxed at a personal 15% rate
(and have no tax effect on the corporation).

2)
It also seems theoretically possible to turn it into a long term
capital gain by having the corporation buy shares back at a price/
share
such that the desired funds are distributed.
It seems that a long-term gain for small company stock will be
taxed at 14% (50% is excluded and the rest is taxed at 28%).
It also seems that his will not have any corporate tax effects.

Assuming 2) is kosher, it would probably not be worth the 1% tax
rate savings because of the complication.
However, there is a possilility that we may decide to close the
business and cease operations in 2008. In that case it seems it would
be clean
for the corporation to buy back most of the shares before ceasing
operation.

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