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| On Mar 28, 3:43*am, way...[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > On Mar 26, 7:55 am, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
conundrum. (There are times when rate are higher and if you have> > It depends on who winds up with the money. *When I was a landlord in DC I > > was required by local law to hold the security deposit in an escrow account > > and pay the interest to the tenant annually. *I then treated the interest > > paid as "nominee" interest, and only the tenant had taxable income from it. > > See the instructions for Schedule B of the 1040 and the 1099 series. > > -- > > Phil Marti > > Clarksburg, MD > The escrow accounts I use pay a ridiculously low interest rate, > something like 0.15%. For the amount of interest this generates every > year, I just pay the taxes myself, because it is not worth it to me to > do the paperwork to shift $5 of income to each tenant. > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > True. But there must be an accounting rule or something for this multiple high end properties .... ) It doesn't make sense for the landlord to pay taxes on interest on a deposit that is returned to a tenant. A tax credit for the taxes paid on interest on a deposit returned to a tenant seems like a good idea. ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: please trim the post to which you are responding -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 27, 10:42*pm, "parrisbraes...[at]yahoo.ca" <parrisbraes...[at]yahoo.ca> wrote: - quote - > > Really not following here. Do I pay the taxes on the deposit interest > > or does the tenant? It's in a bank, accruing interest. I get a INT > > form at the end of the year with this amount. I pay the taxes on this > > even though it's the tenants money? > As mentioned, you set this as nominee interest. It is declared on your > tax return and nomineed to the tenant. The tenant pays the taxes on > the interest as it is their interest. > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > How do I set nominee interest. What forms? ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: please trim the post to which you are responding -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 26, 7:55 am, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > It depends on who winds up with the money. When I was a landlord in DC I
The escrow accounts I use pay a ridiculously low interest rate,> was required by local law to hold the security deposit in an escrow account > and pay the interest to the tenant annually. I then treated the interest > paid as "nominee" interest, and only the tenant had taxable income from it. > See the instructions for Schedule B of the 1040 and the 1099 series. > -- > Phil Marti > Clarksburg, MD something like 0.15%. For the amount of interest this generates every year, I just pay the taxes myself, because it is not worth it to me to do the paperwork to shift $5 of income to each tenant. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| parrisbraeside[at]yahoo.ca posted the following as a sort of wrapup to my sidebar discussion of rental deposits: - quote - > > Really not following here. Do I pay the taxes
I have no argument here, but simply wanted to clarify my original> > on the deposit interest or does the tenant? > > It's in a bank, accruing interest. I get a INT > > form at the end of the year with this amount. I > > pay the taxes on this even though it's the > > tenants money? > As mentioned, you set this as nominee > interest. It is declared on your tax return and > nomineed to the tenant. The tenant pays the > taxes on the interest as it is their interest. anecdotal comment: In those halcyon days, there was no such thing as "checking account interest" at most banks, and I simply allowed the deposit for my tenant to sit in the account I maintained for the rental property. There was actually no interest earned, no 1099 generated, and that's why I referenced my passing along "imputed interest" to the tenant as I returned the security deposit. I don't know whether she reported it, and I certainly didn't issue any report, other than the Schedule E equivalent for that era -- and I don't recall how I handled the "interest" ... which was a very minor amount in those low-rent days. (This was long before I became an avid student of taxes.) Bill -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > Really not following here. Do I pay the taxes on the deposit interest
As mentioned, you set this as nominee interest. It is declared on your> or does the tenant? It's in a bank, accruing interest. I get a INT > form at the end of the year with this amount. I pay the taxes on this > even though it's the tenants money? tax return and nomineed to the tenant. The tenant pays the taxes on the interest as it is their interest. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 27, 3:19*am, "removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com" <removeps- gro...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > On Mar 26, 7:04 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote:
or does the tenant? It's in a bank, accruing interest. I get a INT> > States may have legislation which would affect this issue. *Normally, > > such interest would properly be held in escrow, and any interest might > > be credited as miscellaneous income to the property, if the escrow > > account pays interest. > But then it would be double tax, right? > > 40 years ago, when I last had some income property, I accrued the > > interest as a credit toward the deposit total ... and when the tenant > > departed (with no security or damage deductions), I included the imputed > > interest as an increase to the original deposit amount -- to the > > satisfaction of my tenant (who was surprised I did so). > Was any tax paid on big interest payment that was added to the > deposit? *In general, gradual interest payments are better though as > they keep you from going to a higher tax bracket, but the amounts here > are probably very small. > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > Really not following here. Do I pay the taxes on the deposit interest form at the end of the year with this amount. I pay the taxes on this even though it's the tenants money? ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Please delete all unnecessary material from the prior message when responding. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 26, 7:04 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote: - quote - > States may have legislation which would affect this issue. Normally,
But then it would be double tax, right?> such interest would properly be held in escrow, and any interest might > be credited as miscellaneous income to the property, if the escrow > account pays interest. - quote - > 40 years ago, when I last had some income property, I accrued the
Was any tax paid on big interest payment that was added to the> interest as a credit toward the deposit total ... and when the tenant > departed (with no security or damage deductions), I included the imputed > interest as an increase to the original deposit amount -- to the > satisfaction of my tenant (who was surprised I did so). deposit? In general, gradual interest payments are better though as they keep you from going to a higher tax bracket, but the amounts here are probably very small. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| nickravo[at]gmail.com (nickravo1[at]gmail.com) posted this query: - quote - > I assume it is the landlord. Even though the
States may have legislation which would affect this issue. Normally,> interest goes back to the tenant (and they > presumably have to pay taxes on it, too.) such interest would properly be held in escrow, and any interest might be credited as miscellaneous income to the property, if the escrow account pays interest. 40 years ago, when I last had some income property, I accrued the interest as a credit toward the deposit total ... and when the tenant departed (with no security or damage deductions), I included the imputed interest as an increase to the original deposit amount -- to the satisfaction of my tenant (who was surprised I did so). I'm not aware of any IRS specific mention of this issue. Bill -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "nickravo1[at]gmail.com" wrote: - quote - > I assume it is the landlord. Even though the interest goes back to the
It depends on who winds up with the money. When I was a landlord in DC I> tenant (and they presumably have to pay taxes on it, too.) was required by local law to hold the security deposit in an escrow account and pay the interest to the tenant annually. I then treated the interest paid as "nominee" interest, and only the tenant had taxable income from it. See the instructions for Schedule B of the 1040 and the 1099 series. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I assume it is the landlord. Even though the interest goes back to the tenant (and they presumably have to pay taxes on it, too.) -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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