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Old 03-24-2008, 05:44 PM
ollie24018@yahoo.com
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On Mar 22, 5:19*pm, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Bill wrote:
> > taxlo...[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted:
> > > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but
> > > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from
> > > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
> > > > is income and should be reported. I would
> > > > suggest it might be classified as "other
> > > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form
> > > > 1040.
> > > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he
> > > eventually sells his house for, paying capital
> > > gains on it as appropriate?

> > Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax
> > year. *Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions
> > -- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and
> > assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for
> > handling the status quo situation.

> I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate transaction
> which will have occurred well before the (eventual) sale of the house.
> Doesn't matter that it might be in the same year.
> For a client of mine, I would list it as you first said, "other income".
> ChEAr$,
> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
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I believe the concensus is that this payment needs to be claimed as
ordinary income. I will pass along this advise.
I don't believe the IRS will have the ability to have known of this
transaction but I'm sure they will be grateful of his honesty and
willingness to declare. That is the way he was brought up.
Thank you for your time and inputs.

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Old 03-22-2008, 10:27 PM
Rich Carreiro
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Stuart Bronstein <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> writes:

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> I agree with you, Harlan. I think an analogous situation would be
> writing call options on stock you own. Assuming the call expires
> unused, do you claim that as income when received, or as part of the
> sale price in the year when it is eventually sold?


Neither. If a written call expires worthless, you have a short-term
capital gain which belongs to the tax year in which the option
expired.

If instead the option is exercised against the stock you own,
the option premium is added to the sales proceeds of the stock
that was called away from you.

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Old 03-22-2008, 08:33 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Bill wrote:
> > taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted:
> > > > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but
> > > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from
> > > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
> > > > is income and should be reported. I would
> > > > suggest it might be classified as "other
> > > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form
> > > > 1040.
> > > > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he
> > > eventually sells his house for, paying capital
> > > gains on it as appropriate?
> > > Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same

> > tax year.

> I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate
> transaction which will have occurred well before the (eventual)
> sale of the house. Doesn't matter that it might be in the same
> year.


I agree with you, Harlan. I think an analogous situation would be
writing call options on stock you own. Assuming the call expires
unused, do you claim that as income when received, or as part of the
sale price in the year when it is eventually sold?

Stu

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Old 03-22-2008, 08:19 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Bill wrote:
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> taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted:
> > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but
> > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from
> > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
> > > is income and should be reported. I would
> > > suggest it might be classified as "other
> > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form
> > > 1040.

> > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he
> > eventually sells his house for, paying capital
> > gains on it as appropriate?

> Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax
> year. Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions
> -- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and
> assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for
> handling the status quo situation.


I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate transaction
which will have occurred well before the (eventual) sale of the house.
Doesn't matter that it might be in the same year.

For a client of mine, I would list it as you first said, "other income".

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Bill
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taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted:

- quote -

> > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but
> > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from
> > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
> > is income and should be reported. I would
> > suggest it might be classified as "other
> > income" and reported on line 21 of Form
> > 1040.


> Couldn't it be thrown in with what he
> eventually sells his house for, paying capital
> gains on it as appropriate?


Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax
year. Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions
-- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and
assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for
handling the status quo situation.

Bill

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Old 03-22-2008, 03:05 AM
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- quote -

> Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but then permitted the
> buyer to withdraw from the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
> is income and should be reported. I would suggest it might be
> classified as "other income" and reported on line 21 of Form 1040.


Couldn't it be thrown in with what he eventually sells his house for, paying
capital gains on it as appropriate?

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Old 03-22-2008, 02:10 AM
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ollie24018[at]yahoo.com posted:

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> My son had a signed contract to sell his
> property. The buyer wanted desperately to get
> out of the contract for the house and paid him
> a sum of $15,000 to release him from this
> obligation. This just happened this week. The
> contract was voided and all went on their way.
> My son asked if he must claim this $15,000 as
> income when he files his return next year.


Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but then permitted the
buyer to withdraw from the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That
is income and should be reported. I would suggest it might be
classified as "other income" and reported on line 21 of Form 1040. (I'm
assuming he isn't in the real estate business.)

Depending on your son's total income, he should either increase his
withholding or arrange to make estimated tax payments to offset the
additional tax he will owe for 2008. Under the circumstances, it might
be worth his while to seek guidance from a tax advisor.

Bill

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Old 03-21-2008, 11:46 PM
ollie24018@yahoo.com
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Default Is this to be claimed as income?

My son had a signed contract to sell his property. The buyer wanted
desperately to get out of the contract for the house and paid him a
sum of $15,000 to release him from this obligation. This just
happened this week. The contract was voided and all went on their way.
My son asked if he must claim this $15,000 as income when he files his
return next year.

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