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| On Mar 22, 5:19*pm, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Bill wrote:
I believe the concensus is that this payment needs to be claimed as> > taxlo...[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted: > > > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but > > > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from > > > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That > > > > is income and should be reported. I would > > > > suggest it might be classified as "other > > > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form > > > > 1040. > > > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he > > > eventually sells his house for, paying capital > > > gains on it as appropriate? > > Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax > > year. *Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions > > -- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and > > assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for > > handling the status quo situation. > I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate transaction > which will have occurred well before the (eventual) sale of the house. > Doesn't matter that it might be in the same year. > For a client of mine, I would list it as you first said, "other income". > ChEAr$, > Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > ordinary income. I will pass along this advise. I don't believe the IRS will have the ability to have known of this transaction but I'm sure they will be grateful of his honesty and willingness to declare. That is the way he was brought up. Thank you for your time and inputs. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Stuart Bronstein <spamtrap[at]lexregia.com> writes: - quote - > I agree with you, Harlan. I think an analogous situation would be
Neither. If a written call expires worthless, you have a short-term> writing call options on stock you own. Assuming the call expires > unused, do you claim that as income when received, or as part of the > sale price in the year when it is eventually sold? capital gain which belongs to the tax year in which the option expired. If instead the option is exercised against the stock you own, the option premium is added to the sales proceeds of the stock that was called away from you. -- Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Bill wrote:
I agree with you, Harlan. I think an analogous situation would be> > taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted: > > > > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but > > > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from > > > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That > > > > is income and should be reported. I would > > > > suggest it might be classified as "other > > > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form > > > > 1040. > > > > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he > > > eventually sells his house for, paying capital > > > gains on it as appropriate? > > > Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same > > tax year. > I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate > transaction which will have occurred well before the (eventual) > sale of the house. Doesn't matter that it might be in the same > year. writing call options on stock you own. Assuming the call expires unused, do you claim that as income when received, or as part of the sale price in the year when it is eventually sold? Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Bill wrote: - quote - > taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted:
I'm of a different opinion, Bill, since this was a separate transaction> > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but > > > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from > > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That > > > is income and should be reported. I would > > > suggest it might be classified as "other > > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form > > > 1040. > > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he > > eventually sells his house for, paying capital > > gains on it as appropriate? > Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax > year. Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions > -- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and > assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for > handling the status quo situation. which will have occurred well before the (eventual) sale of the house. Doesn't matter that it might be in the same year. For a client of mine, I would list it as you first said, "other income". ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| taxlover[at]yahoo.com (Taxlover) posted: - quote - > > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but
Yes it possibly could, in the event that occurs within the same tax> > then permitted the buyer to withdraw from > > the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That > > is income and should be reported. I would > > suggest it might be classified as "other > > income" and reported on line 21 of Form > > 1040. > Couldn't it be thrown in with what he > eventually sells his house for, paying capital > gains on it as appropriate? year. Frankly, I was reflecting the dire real estate market conditions -- which undoubtedly led to the original cancellation event -- and assumed there was enough doubt about a replacement buyer to plan for handling the status quo situation. Bill -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but then permitted the
Couldn't it be thrown in with what he eventually sells his house for, paying> buyer to withdraw from the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That > is income and should be reported. I would suggest it might be > classified as "other income" and reported on line 21 of Form 1040. capital gains on it as appropriate? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| ollie24018[at]yahoo.com posted: - quote - > My son had a signed contract to sell his
Yes. In effect, your son sold his property, but then permitted the> property. The buyer wanted desperately to get > out of the contract for the house and paid him > a sum of $15,000 to release him from this > obligation. This just happened this week. The > contract was voided and all went on their way. > My son asked if he must claim this $15,000 as > income when he files his return next year. buyer to withdraw from the contract in return for a $15,000 fee. That is income and should be reported. I would suggest it might be classified as "other income" and reported on line 21 of Form 1040. (I'm assuming he isn't in the real estate business.) Depending on your son's total income, he should either increase his withholding or arrange to make estimated tax payments to offset the additional tax he will owe for 2008. Under the circumstances, it might be worth his while to seek guidance from a tax advisor. Bill -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My son had a signed contract to sell his property. The buyer wanted desperately to get out of the contract for the house and paid him a sum of $15,000 to release him from this obligation. This just happened this week. The contract was voided and all went on their way. My son asked if he must claim this $15,000 as income when he files his return next year. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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